[Luke]

You know.. local church colleges with no 501c3 status or other government accreditation doesn't mean that they are diploma mills.

People work hard for those degrees, regardless of whether or not they COST $100 or $10,000.

You can't put a price on the study of God's word. And just because someone went to a great college doesn't make them a good student of the word.

[Greektim]

Originally Posted by peopleoftheway

The reason this thread stirred up much controversy is the belief that some folks have that in order to be a Pastor / teacher / Evangelist a degree is needed or some kind of formal qualification to go out and "Preach the word" and this is just not the case.

I am not sure I agree with this. Can you point to the person and post that such a claim was made?

[peopleoftheway]

Originally Posted by Greektim

I am not sure I agree with this. Can you point to the person and post that such a claim was made?

Originally Posted by peopleoftheway
The reason this thread stirred up much controversy is the belief that some folks have that in order to be a Pastor / teacher / Evangelist a degree is needed or some kind of formal qualification to go out and "Preach the word" and this is just not the

Its the belief people have in this "requirement" to Preach I am refuting, and the controversy surrounding a mans "qualifications", I know of plenty of people who think that a pastor with Doctorate's and degrees is more suited to "Preach the word" than anyone else. If i had specifically targeted that statement for anyone on this forum I would have addressed them with that post.
Do you believe a man needs formal qualifications to be apt to teach and preach the word of God?

Originally Posted by peopleoftheway

Do you believe a man needs formal qualifications to be apt to teach and preach the word of God?

LOL, we might be giving Timmy too much credit brother.
It seems Timmy still hasn't even figured out what the Word of God is yet, much less who is qualified to teach.

Timmy quote: "I am extremely against the KJV only view."

[Luke]

The FFF are a bunch of fools. Almost every last one of them. I got my problems I know, but I don't pretend I don't.

They won't face the actual doctrine at all..

Do they want some ammunition to actually mock him about? Well, have a read of his commentary on the book of Acts. I won't say exactly what is in it that they will rant and rave about, but they will find something BIG! (If I do mention is specifically, they will all just quote me, even though I've never read it. Gipp told me about it over breakfast one morning and said all his notes on this particular view of his were in his book on Acts).

There argument goes like this

Gipp got his degree from PBI. Ruckman runs PBI. Ruckman is weird. Sam Gipp is weird. His degree is weird. Everything he writes is weird. Let's disregard it all because of that. If we can make people THINK he is bonkers, they won't actually read anything he wrote, but instead, copy and paste from me or someone else to support their reasoning. It's what they all do with Ruckman.

Test it. Start a thread on Ruckman on the FFF... say "Can I please have the address to Peter Ruckman's Bookstore Website". In 5 seconds, you'll have a bunch of parrots posting David Cloud's "expose" of Black is Beautiful, even though the thread had nothing to do with BiB.

I bet half of them own Lawrence Vance's "The Otherside of Calvinism". Vance was a PBI grad as well.

[Jeremy]

Originally Posted by Luke

The FFF are a bunch of fools. Almost every last one of them. I got my problems I know, but I don't pretend I don't.

There argument goes like this

Gipp got his degree from PBI. Ruckman runs PBI. Ruckman is weird. Sam Gipp is weird. His degree is weird. Everything he writes is weird. Let's disregard it all because of that. If we can make people THINK he is bonkers, they won't actually read anything he wrote, but instead, copy and paste from me or someone else to support their reasoning. It's what they all do with Ruckman.

Yeah,so we are suppose to listen to a person who has a skull and cross bones for an avatar.

[Luke]

That clip they posted is three minutes of a 3 hour debate. The debate is really good to watch. For most of the debate, Gipp and the other KJB guy own them. Then they keep asking this dumb question about "where was the Bible before 1611". They actually cut a bit out where an editor of the NKJV loses his voice for a few minutes.

Sam Gipp answers honestly - WHO CARES! He wasn't there, so why does anyone care. Gipp owns this debate. White and Wallace are childish and continually interupt with baby questions and childish interjections. Gipp says something and they start running over him with "why why why" while he is in the middle of explaining why.

[ChaplainPaul]

Originally Posted by peopleoftheway
The reason this thread stirred up much controversy is the belief that some folks have that in order to be a Pastor / teacher / Evangelist a degree is needed or some kind of formal qualification to go out and "Preach the word" and this is just not the case.

Originally Posted by Greektim

I am not sure I agree with this. Can you point to the person and post that such a claim was made?

For example, you can look at the Gail Riplinger thread on the FFF forum and discover some of our friends using her secular degree to say she doesn't know anything about theology and shouldn't be writing on it. They used her degree in basketweaving or whatever it is as an "in" to malign her character. When I first started posting on that forum, they tried to bring my education into question, too, trying to fish for ammunition to use against me.

In general, in the Southern Baptist Convention, people look at the Master of Divinity degree as the professional qualification of a full-time pastor. In the land of the hirelings, if you don't have a degree, you're not getting a decent church-job.

Inquiring about the education of an opponent on a site which advocates a position you are extremely against can look like an "in" to malign his character because it is often used in this manner.

Alas, it appears that some of the Bible correcting pink panty brethren have taken it upon themselves to use this issue to bash Bro. Gipp and the KJV:
http://www.fundamentalforums.com/bib...confusion.html

OOOPS, sorry Greektim, did I "drop a bomb" on you?

[peopleoftheway]

Originally Posted by Bro. Parrish

Alas, it appears that some of the Bible correcting pink panty brethren have taken it upon themselves to use this issue to bash Bro. Gipp and the KJV:
http://www.fundamentalforums.com/bib...confusion.html

OOOPS, sorry Greektim, did I "drop a bomb" on you?

The simple "question" that started this thread has turned out just how many knew it would from the get Go, in maligning a Bible believer, his qualifications and his integrity. And showing your little forum over there how harsh and unloving us bible believers are.

1 Timothy 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

Proverbs 13:10 Only by pride cometh contention: but with the well advised is wisdom.