[JOHN G]

Greetings GreekTim,
I assume you are the author, "Tim", of the website link below your name. In the profile of that name is seven sentences. Here is one:
"I am extremely against the KJV only view. "

Is this you? Correct me if I am wrong.

In Christ

[Greektim]

Originally Posted by JOHN G

Greetings GreekTim,
I assume you are the author, "Tim", of the website link below your name. In the profile of that name is seven sentences. Here is one:
"I am extremely against the KJV only view. "

Is this you? Correct me if I am wrong.

In Christ

I don't mind answering questions...in fact...I would love to discuss my views. But I just want this thread to stay focused on my question. I searched the net and cannot find my answer. I was hoping to find some help here.

Your answer, yes, that is me.

[Cody1611]

Originally Posted by Greektim

I don't mind answering questions...in fact...I would love to discuss my views. But I just want this thread to stay focused on my question. I searched the net and cannot find my answer. I was hoping to find some help here.

Your answer, yes, that is me.

If you are so strongly against what we stand for then why are you here? Don't give me this bunk, "I want to discuss the matter." blah, blah, blah...You are here because you have a set agenda and you want to prove that God's word(KJB) is not perfect.

I want to ask you a question. Where is your preserved word of God at? In corrupt manuscripts? Did they come from the Alexandria Cult? Are they in a new version "bible"?

[peopleoftheway]

I am afraid Tim presents himself as one of the many people we get joining the forum on a weekly basis, who have no intention of discussing the Bible, scripture, the grievous ERROR of modern versions through corrupt, philosophy leavened texts or indeed anything with us, but rather here to push "the greek" or scholarly wisdom and letters after mens names.

God gave me a Book, one book, to study and learn from, not from texts and ancient manuscripts.

1 Corinthians 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
1 Corinthians 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

I am so blessed to have these letters after my name

Steven Monahan. B O R N A G A I N

[Greektim]

Originally Posted by peopleoftheway

I am afraid Tim presents himself as one of the many people we get joining the forum on a weekly basis, who have no intention of discussing the Bible, scripture, the grievous ERROR of modern versions through corrupt, philosophy leavened texts or indeed anything with us, but rather here to push "the greek" or scholarly wisdom and letters after mens names.

God gave me a Book, one book, to study and learn from, not from texts and ancient manuscripts.

1 Corinthians 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
1 Corinthians 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

I am so blessed to have these letters after my name

Steven Monahan. B O R N A G A I N

Again this has nothing to do w/ the topic of this thread, but...

I don't know that i have presented myself in such a way, Steven. I asked a question. That doesn't present anything about me other than I am curious and inquisitive.

I do hope to be "discussing the Bible, scripture, the grievous ERROR of modern versions through corrupt, philosophy leavened texts or indeed anything with us." I just had a question and wanted to know. I thought this might be a good place to find out. I am sure many of you know Dr. Gipp or at least about him.

[peopleoftheway]

Tim

Can I ask why you joined this forum? You by your own admission from your website are
"extremely against the KJV only view. "
Now from the get go we on this forum can see your agenda, you are not here to discuss anything, but you are here to try and persuade a group of Born again Bible believers that their choice of One Book is wrong.

Absolutely NO amount of "greek", "scholarly" input nor humanistic reasoning will ever persuade me that the Lord hasn't preserved his word, for us, today, IN ONE PLACE, in one book, the KJB. If you desire to continue the fruitless study of "Greek manuscripts and underlying texts" that is you perogative.
I know that as a young man (well youngish) I pray to stand and fight the good fight with a sharp sword in my hand, not a flimsy handful of texts or a garden spade modern version. I am armoured up to fight for Christ, not dressed down with ecumenical compromise and weak weapons of apostate nature.

1 Timothy 1:17-19 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare; Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

[Greektim]

I am here so that iron can sharpen iron.

Now from the get go we on this forum can see your agenda, you are not here to discuss anything, but you are here to try and persuade a group of Born again Bible believers that their choice of One Book is wrong.

I have not presented an agenda thus far. I have not even tried to persuade anyone saved or unsaved about a choice of One Book. I have jumped into discussions and tried to start some as well. So while I appreciate your zeal for what you hold to be true, you are falsely accusing me of something that I have not done.

Now by all means, pick me apart, pick my views apart. But let's do it on another thread. My morbid curiosity is getting to me. Can we restrict posts to the issue of the OP? Please???

[peopleoftheway]

Tim from your website

"I am extremely against the KJV only view."

How is that not an indication to us of your agenda? are you here to be led into the truth, that God HAS preserved his words in just one book? Or are you here to show us that he hasn't? which is it.
I certainly wouldn't be "on your case" or "picking your views apart" if you were not entirely sure about "which Bible" or not convinced "in your own mind" of where God has preserved his word. But in all evidence from your website you have "made up your mind" on these matters and any discussion with us is most certainly not going to change your course on the matter.
Which leads to the question
"Is your posting going to be edifying or profitable?"

Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

Advocating any modern version or its underlying text on this forum my Friend is never going to sharpen my countenance

1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

[BornAgainBibleBeliever514]

Asking where someone got their degree is such an old, flimsey attempt to undermine something a teacher puts forth that they don't like.

They tried to do it to Kent Hovind, for example. They just plain couldn't deal with his facts and rock-solid position against evolution, so they would resort to ad-hominem attacks about where he got his degree.

Personally, I don't know where Gipp got his degree, and couldn't care less, the man is sharp, smart, and tears up humanistic textual criticism in any form. Nobody can counter the truth.

Pro 21:30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD.

And, posting a link to your website that clearly outlines your stance, you should expect that a bunch of zealous Internet-using Christians would check it out. Your agenda was stated when you wrote your signiature.

[George]

Can I ask why you joined this forum? You by your own admission from your website are
"extremely against the KJV only view. "
Now from the get go we on this forum can see your agenda, you are not here to discuss anything, but you are here to try and persuade a group of Born again Bible believers that their choice of One Book is wrong.

Aloha brother Steve,

You asked GREEKtim (the "name" says it ALL!): "why you joined this forum?" This remains a great "mystery" with me also. WHY? Why do King James Bible DENIERS join this Forum? And WHY do they always try to represent themselves as being "NEUTRAL", when all along they have a VICIOUS BIAS against God's Holy word? (i.e. - "I am extremely against the KJV only view.") I wouldn't "think" of joining his (or their) Forum - WHY do they come here? WHAT do they hope to accomplish? {They sure aren't here to "edify" the brethren! }

And you will notice - they are always so "NICE"; so "SMARMY"; so "INGRATIATING"; and sooo "POLITE" and "HUMBLE"! It's enough to make a grown man sick! Check out where a young man has gone to college or "bible" school and, nearly all the time, you can tell what he believes.

These so-called "bible" schools and "christian" colleges are turning out the same cookie cutter graduates (by the hundreds) who "regurgetate" what they have learned from their apostate "theological professors" - and yet, they have no idea WHERE God's word is, or WHAT it is. But they are absolutely SURE of one thing - that it can't be the King James Bible, and they are willing to join a "AV1611 Forum" and "innocently" try to pass themselves off as "neutral" observers, while all the time harboring an "extreme" bias against the Book that most of us believe in and honor.

Does the word disingenuous come to mind? Does the word deceitful come to mind? Does the word SUBTLE come to mind? These kind of "Christians" literally make me sick! I can put up with drunks, dopers, and ordinary every day sinners (like me), before I can put up with a pretentious "Christian" that is two-faced and full of GUILE!

DUPLICITOUS and FEIGNED conduct on the part of a "Christian" (a "pastor" at that) is not only inappropriate and unbecoming, it also dishonors the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and is a reproach to the ministry to which "greektim" is supposedly called.

If you doubt what I have said about Humanistic influence on today's churches and "Christian" education, you only have to read greektim's Threads & Posts, and his "responses" to others on the Forum to see the results!

Proverbs 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.