[BornAgainBibleBeliever514]

For the record, I used to listen to alot of Missler (I have everything I could download, which is alot! - he's quite popular), but the more I learnt, the more I disagreed with him in various areas.
He is some kind of walking encyclopedia, but men like that can also become dangerous.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

This guy has certainly studied the Bible, yet he's one of those Greek correctors, and quite frequently such that it really put me off. He does have some great stuff, and I did learn much from him, however I've put his expositions on the back shelf as not being reliable. He definitely sparks alot of curiosity, and his Acts 17:11 motto is repeated at the start of every lesson he gives, and urges you to do your own homework, not to take his word for it, which is comendable.

Thank you Samuel for getting out the tomes and doing some homework for us. I guess Missler does what most Bible-correctors do, they check a lexicon and pick whichever of the various possible translations that fit a desired end, but its not necessarily correct.

Its almost too bad, the gospel hidden in the names thing would be pretty neat if it were reliably correct.

Chette, it was pretty obvious from post#1 that Boaz was seeking comments on the Missler interpretation, and I think you meant to say that Hebrew lacks vowels.

Since its on-topic; I agree OT saints weren't looking forward to the cross per se, since that method of execution wasn't even common yet, but given the fact that there were sufficient prophecies about Christ's suffering and atonement in their hands back then, is it not safe to say they were looking forward to perfect redemption? (Although they focused on the Kingdom prophecies more).
Some examples that even point towards crucifixion: Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, Zechariah 12:10, Genesis 3:15 (!?!), Genesis 49:10 Sceptre passing from Judah would indicate that it ought to be at the hands of the Romans and their methods.
Anyways, I'm sure there are more.

[chette777]

HuH yes lacked vowels Opps! I had my consonant's on backwards.

and yes Kingdom Prophecies were their primary focus. and the prophets could point to crucifixion however they would have been blind to it being for their salvation. They were to busy looking for the coming of a king with an army to set them free. But soon to come to an earth near you.

[boaz212]

Thanks guys for your thoughts on my post. I read Chuck Missler's commentary online here and there. It's good that he uses the KJB but he does correct the Bible with the Greek and Hebrew which I don't like. It's good to know that there's no real agreement on the meaning of these names in Genesis 5.
Chette, if you have any other insights to this chapter besides the chuck Missler question I had, feel free to put them on this thread.
Thanks!
Tim

[Samuel]

I've always heard that if you use the KJV, you don't need to correct the Greek, and Hebrew. You only need to do that with those other strange books; Er, I mean Bibles.