[Fredoheaven]

Originally Posted by tonybones2112

Was Hebrew around in the days of Abram? Abram was a Sumerian of the lineage of Eber, an "eberu", "wanderer".. We know Hebrew was around when Joseph spoke to his brothers in Egypt. My belief the "heavenly language" is Hebrew Luke. This verse deals not with the Church but with Israel, the "pure language" being Hebrew, the language of God and Israel.

Given God's preeiminant place he gives Israel in eternity, I don't see English as being any type of eternal language or standard and it's silly to think otherwise. We can defend the KJV until we cross into untenable and unprovable areas.

Grace and peace

Tony

Sir, may I respectfully ask if our Lord did spake in Hebrew or in Greek?
In John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Is our Lord spake in Greek or Hebrew in this particular text? Is this a possiblity that the "heavenly language" will be a Greek as against the Hebrew language?

Just asking?


Jude 25

Originally Posted by Just_A_Thought

I think we will not need a written word since we will have unlimited access to Jesus. I am not sure, maybe we will have a written word but I personnally do not think we will need one since we have the Word.

LOL, come on brother, you don't even think we have the perfect Word in writing today. OF COURSE we will have the written Word of God in heaven, the KJB is the Word of God and Jesus is the Word in flesh. His WORDS (plural) are recorded forever in that Bible, and they aren't going anywhere. (John 1:14, Luke 21:33)

[tonybones2112]

Originally Posted by Fredoheaven

I am a firm believer that our KJV is the preserved word of God and in no doubt it is said to be the perfect word of God. We are a still living in this world, which menas there is still a capacity to do sin and with our finite mind we are not able to know everything. Somehow, thoughts after thought, which I called them a "crazy thought" comes to my mind about our beloved KJV if this will live forever. Well our Lord had stated that "Heaven and earth will pass away but my words will not pass.." surely the KJV will live forever. Now my crazy thought is this: will our KJV1611 will still be used in heaven?

Please help...


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Fred, how's this for way out: I believe in eternity the Bible will be either combined into one book, redivided by the Lord into 77 rather than the most incomplete 66(number of man and incompleteness) or that during the Tribulation/ Millenium 11 more books of Scripture are yet to be given by inspiration.

Grace and peace

Tony

[Fredoheaven]

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Originally Posted by tonybones2112

Fred, how's this for way out: I believe in eternity the Bible will be either combined into one book, redivided by the Lord into 77 rather than the most incomplete 66(number of man and incompleteness) or that during the Tribulation/ Millenium 11 more books of Scripture are yet to be given by inspiration.

Grace and peace

Tony

Is this a fulfillment of "Rightly dividing the Word"? That one of the books of the bible to be subdived to form another book. It might be a Genesis or somewehre in the O.T.?. For me, i don't think so. If so, I guess this is what a Roman Empire would like to be: To divide and to conquer.


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[tonybones2112]

Originally Posted by Fredoheaven

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Is this a fulfillment of "Rightly dividing the Word"? That one of the books of the bible to be subdived to form another book. It might be a Genesis or somewehre in the O.T.?. For me, i don't think so. If so, I guess this is what a Roman Empire would like to be: To divide and to conquer.


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It could be Fred, I studied Bullinger and Ruckman on Bible numerics(NOT numerology)with the symbolism of numbers in the Scripture and just found it odd that the KJV that we all accept as perfect would be divided into 66 books, the number of man and of imperfection. And I am not one to get real "devotional", perhaps the deciding factor that will "complete" the Scriptural numeric is the Personal Presence of Christ Himself. I mean I'm not going to open a website or found a sect on it, I just think a lot. I have ADD, almost to the point of autism and I do think a great deal about different things. Being a former intelligence analyst/collator don't help. Here's another one for you: when people doubt the Rapture or when it'll take place, I think maybe I got the clincher on it being a Pretrib: It has to be before the tribulation because the tribulation will be CAUSED by the Rapture.

Grace and peace brother

Tony

[Fredoheaven]

Originally Posted by tonybones2112

It could be Fred, I studied Bullinger and Ruckman on Bible numerics(NOT numerology)with the symbolism of numbers in the Scripture and just found it odd that the KJV that we all accept as perfect would be divided into 66 books, the number of man and of imperfection. And I am not one to get real "devotional", perhaps the deciding factor that will "complete" the Scriptural numeric is the Personal Presence of Christ Himself. I mean I'm not going to open a website or found a sect on it, I just think a lot. I have ADD, almost to the point of autism and I do think a great deal about different things. Being a former intelligence analyst/collator don't help. Here's another one for you: when people doubt the Rapture or when it'll take place, I think maybe I got the clincher on it being a Pretrib: It has to be before the tribulation because the tribulation will be CAUSED by the Rapture.

Grace and peace brother

Tony

Yep, of course it will be the "Great Tribulation" will be the caused of the rapture and we will be Raptured because of the Great Tribulation. Is this one a valid statement?
I think, I do not think the idea of a Post trib or mid trib. And surely about it, I think, I will don't think it now.

Thank you bro of your thought provoking ideas, somehow I've been learning.

Jude 25

[tonybones2112]

Originally Posted by Fredoheaven

Yep, of course it will be the "Great Tribulation" will be the caused of the rapture and we will be Raptured because of the Great Tribulation. Is this one a valid statement?
I think, I do not think the idea of a Post trib or mid trib. And surely about it, I think, I will don't think it now.

Thank you bro of your thought provoking ideas, somehow I've been learning.

Jude 25

The Scriptures teach me Fred, that God will take a tithe unto Himself from the Mystery Body, it will be 1/10 the living and 1/10 the dead, this is the "fullness of the Gentiles".

Mt 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Lu 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
1Th 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

Just as Jesus defined in John 17 the identity of the "son of perdition" in Paul's Scriptures, Jesus defines the "wrath to come" for Paul's letter here, and God has assured me that we will be called out of the world prior to this Great Wrath.

You study and be fully persuaded in your own mind. I am glad I provoked some study and that you enjoyed it. I have Swordsearcher and am like a kid on Xmas morning

Grace and peace brother.

Tony