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I'm back after spending some time reading many of the older posts on this forum as requested. I am ready to "proclaim my position" if this would be allowed by Brandon. My husband and I distributed a tract we wrote a few years ago and I could post it on the forum in segments for your critique. I would welcome all critiques, although I anticipate much opposition. My position is solidly based on KJV Scriptures, though I am not of the "rightly dividing" dispensational persuasion as you know. You also said: Quote:
To Brandon: In anticipation of the question, yes, I accept the KJV Bible as my final authority. All of my points will be made by quoting KJV verses only....no Greek or Hebrew. May I proceed? Tandi |
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Well, the thread is titled "bad tracts", so it seems like the appropriate place for it.
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Ga 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Whether you post a tract and it's interpreted by the webmaster as merely your position, or interpreted as an attempt to make converts to the Law and it's disallowed, is not up to me. If I request anything I want you to explain what the verse above from Galatians means. In your own words, or go to the Four Gospels and refuted it from the red letters. You can post as many tracts as Brandon allows you to, I'd myself rather hear from your mouth, from your heart, what your position is, in your own words, and not some prefab piece of literature you assembled 6 months, a year, 5 years ago, whatever. Ro 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; Ga 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Ga 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Ga 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Ga 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. You didn't read those verses, did you? You scrolled down to see what else I had to say below them. Tandi, they just rolled right off you didn't they? You need to be aware that the KJV is not the only purpose and topic of this forum. The people discussing the KJV and the doctrines and studies from it are all Christians who have been saved by the grace of God apart from the works of the law. I don't know if the false ecumenical spirit has survived you leaving Catholicism in that you think there are some of us who can be saved by following the Law and some of us who can be saved apart from it, both can't be true. Again, personally I think that if you feel you are right and we are all wrong, then you share a forum with damned souls. What you want in a forum of reprobates therefore is beyond me except maybe to convert some of us, or some passerby who just stops to read the forum? Tandi my friend, ye needs gird up thy loins. I'm sure someone will jump your tract or your position like white on rice. If that happens, I told you. We are people who are saved by grace through faith, that not of ourselves, not of works, lest any of us boast. 1Co 14:20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. I'm sure you'll be treated as politely as you have been previously. Go for it. Grace and peace to you. Tony |
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I am new here but I would like to put 'my' two cents in on the subject of repentance. I am going to keep my sentences very simple as I am trying to understand if/how your definition of repentance is different than mine.
Let's look at why Christ died. Did he not become sin and die so that we could enter heaven without defiling it? And in order to understand this, don't we have to admit to have sinned/that we are sinful creatures and that God hates our sin (it is an offense to Him). And by understanding that God hates our sin, we have to acknowledge Him as the Ultimate Authority on the subject (and any subject) and hate our sin as well. Isn't that essentially what repentance is? Isn't that turning from sin? We are weak so we may trip along the way, but knowing all the while these actions are wrong and gaining strength through much prayer and Bible reading. Thus, I don't see how one can understand what Christ did for us if he doesn't understand that A: we are sinful and B: sin is an offense to God. |
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As I have stated, this treatise represents my current views, which you asked for, and which I am not trying to force on others. I welcome all critiques and comments. If there are errors, please show me from Scripture. I am open to correction, as I hope we all are. I will post at Bible Studies in multiple installments. I remind readers of my “statement of faith” which I posted previously on another thread: Quote:
The treatise was originally published as a booklet that my husband and I distributed in 2004 as an offshoot of our Moss Patch Newsletter. My husband is editor-in-chief and approved this updated version of the message. It will also be posted on my blog if anyone would like to leave comments there. Thank you for the opportunity to share my views. Tandi |
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Our Bible reading should not be the source of our strength. Our prayer should not be the source of our strength. We should RECKON ourselves DEAD to sin and self, admitting we have NO strength. And then Christ, who is our LIFE, shall bring forth those fruits in us. This is probably the major error that I see in Christianity today. Too many people, both Free Grace/Lordship Salvation whatever, see that sanctification is something to be worked towards through much strumbling, self denial etc etc. But it's already paid for, God has blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places, and the only person that gets in the way of those blessings is SELF. So die, and let Christ live through you. Then the Bible reading will be fruitful. Then the prayer will be fruitful. Because it will be Christ giving the fruit. |
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Ge 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. To repent is simply to change your mind. God made man and man turned out to be so sorry and corrupt that God was sorry He ever made man, and it has to be pretty bad to grieve God at heart. Here are two more examples of "repenting" and "repentance" being a change of mind: Ex 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. Ex 13:17 And it came to pass, when Pharaoh had let the people go, that God led them not through the way of the land of the Philistines, although that was near; for God said, Lest peradventure the people repent when they see war, and they return to Egypt: Exodus 32 God is ready to put a hurtin' on Israel and He changed His mind. In Exodus 13 Israel was not ready to fight a war, too fresh out of Egypt they were not hardened by the sojourn and had they saw the fierceness of the Philistines they would have changed their minds and fled back to the relative safety of Egypt. In John 8, before the cricifixion, we are told: John 8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. John 8:10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. Did she? If she didn't, she loved the "lifestyle" too much and died in her sins. She did, because she changed her mind about herself and her sin. "Repentance" is changing your mind from yourself towards God through the gospel of Christ. 2Co 7:9 Now I rejoice, not that ye were made sorry, but that ye sorrowed to repentance: for ye were made sorry after a godly manner, that ye might receive damage by us in nothing. 2Co 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death. Being sorry for your sins in not repentance. Sorrow for your sins, for your unsaved status as a sinner, leads you to repentance, to a change of mind from yourself towards God. This leads us to: Ro 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Some who wish to force us back under the Law say belief is a "work". This verse in Romans demonstrates a difference, two distinct and separate precepts. (...but...") I hope this helps. Grace and peace Katie Tony Last edited by tonybones2112; 06-01-2009 at 09:56 PM. Reason: spelling |
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