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Thanks Greenbear! It certainly helped me see your point of view. I will no longer refer to anything you've said in this thread.
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Correct me if I am wrong...so the Love and Race thread is whether or not interracial marriage is permitted in the church age and the Yoked/Joined is what it is. Honestly I don't think I ever commented over there until you addressed me from this thread on the Yoked/Joined with this comment Quote:
Love and Race Thread Post 108, July 20 Quote:
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If it's not God's will, if it's not good, if it is a bad decision etc...and you do it any way it is sin. As I previously stated: Quote:
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Renee wrote this sentence: Quote:
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I believe Renee's point is that we should be careful in judging this couple's marriage as being in some way inferior to our own. An attitude of judgement toward the couple and the validity of their marriage by their (or his or her's) church fellowship, for instance, could cause pain and difficulty in the marriage. Marriage, especially between a believer and unbeliever, is often difficult enough as it is. God forbid that we should play a part in dividing them asunder. Now, that would be a grave sin. Quote:
I would never counsel a believer to marry an unbeliever ... unless there were extenuating circumstances. Perhaps if they are already sleeping together, and they won't or can't stop, which is something that is specifically NAMED AS SIN...fornication, or adultery. Or if the woman was pregnant by the man. Granted that Paul tells widows to remarry only in the Lord, but can you tell me where in the Bible goes God singles out the act of a believer marrying an unbeliever and specifically condemns it. Does He ever NAME IT AS SIN? If He does, then I will flat out name it as a sin. I try (unsuccessfully many times) not to condemn other people for things they do that I feel is sinful. I'm a hypocrite when I do that, and maybe even a false accuser. Jesus pronounced many Woes! to hypocrites. To regular sinners He says, Go and sin no more. He really hates hypocrisy. I don't think He cares much for false accusers, either. I don't want to be either of those things, even though I know I am at times. Last edited by greenbear; 07-22-2009 at 10:06 AM. |
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Oh my word Sis. Jessica!? Of course that's not your quote?
Did I say it was?? No, rather I was quoting - you say Renee? - OK...I did not care who said it...I was interested in showing MY reply to the author's warning... I know you agree with Renee. I read that last night too... I am not confused in the least on what's being discussed in my posts. Quote:
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Sister, I should have put my name in my signature long before now. It's confusing to keep people straight when coming on a new board. It's kind of funny, you can't imagine how many times in my life I have been called Jessica.
A note of explanation: I always assume if someone addresses an undesignated quote in their response to me that they may think I wrote those words. Also, others who read it, even months later, lol, can get confused and attribute the quote to me. I believe you brought the topic back up again and you asked me what scriptures I would use to say that a believer marrying an unbeliever should not be done if it is not sin. These are our individual opinions. It' sin. It's not God's perfect will and therefore a bad idea. I ask you where in the Bible God names it as sin. You ask me where in the Bible I get my ideas about it being a bad idea. I've stated everything I know about why it's a bad idea and even summarized them on my post before last. You still haven't told me where God says He will judge it as sin. Still, you've just given your opinion. Since God (to my knowledge) hasn't labeled it as such, neither should I. There are things that people, not just christians, do in their lives that are not specified as sin, that really mess them up. Quote:
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Sis. Jessica,
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And I believe that the Bible teaches that to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. The Bible clearly states that doing something you know is not good as a sin. It is as you said earlier "something that is specifically NAMED AS SIN" Quote:
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For the record again: I believe that if you do something that is bad or a bad idea or however you want to say it and you KNOW that it is bad or a bad idea it is SIN and I use James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. to support that thought process. Quote:
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I think that there is a gap between that which is sin and that which is not a sin. First, there are behaviors that are not inherently sin, but can become sin in an individual's life. See Romans 14, particularly:
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Second, the Scripture in Hebrews 12:1 separates behavior called "weights" from "sin". Note the conjunction "and". Quote:
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Brother Tim,
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The context of Romans 14:22 is food and going against your conscience. I fully admitted earlier that if you ignorantly married an unbeliver that is different than willfully marrying one. If you are wanting to apply this verse to the topic though, if you are doubting whether or not it is right to marry and you do it doubting then that is also sin. As to Hebrews 12:1 - Luke 18:25 For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Of course as you said it is not a sin to be rich, but it certainly can be a weight hindering you in your walk with God. I don't see where there is a gray area between righteousness and unrighteousness except in ignorance. |
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