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Old 05-12-2009, 07:08 AM
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Footnotes:

1. Acts 4:11 Or cornerstone
2. Acts 4:11 Psalm 118:22

To me, footnotes like this one show the incompetence of the translation "experts" of the NIV. They confuse the readers as to which word (in this verse is offered two words of opposite meanings)is intended by God. God's word now becomes a series of multiple choice questions that the readers must decide what the word of God truly says.
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Old 05-12-2009, 11:39 AM
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Footnotes:

1. Acts 4:11 Or cornerstone
2. Acts 4:11 Psalm 118:22

To me, footnotes like this one show the incompetence of the translation "experts" of the NIV. They confuse the readers as to which word (in this verse is offered two words of opposite meanings)is intended by God. God's word now becomes a series of multiple choice questions that the readers must decide what the word of God truly says.
Yes! Did He say that? Which one? Did he say it at all?

You're understanding Genesis 3 better now brother.

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Old 05-12-2009, 12:13 PM
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Job 38:4-7
who laid its cornerstone- niv
who laid the corner stone- kjv

Psalm 118:22-23
the stone the builders rejected has become the capstone -niv
the stone which the builders refused is become the head stone -kjv <----This is referring to a capstone

Isaiah 19:13-20
an alter to the LORD in the heart of Egypt- niv
an alter to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt -kjv

Isaiah 28:16
precious cornerstone for a sure foundation -niv
precious corner stone, a sure foundation- kjv

Jeremiah 51:26
will be taken from you for a cornerstone -niv
take of thee a stone for a corner -kjv

Zechariah 4:7
he will bring out the capstone -niv
shall bring forth the headstone -kjv <----This is referring to a capstone

Zechariah 10:4
from Judah will come the cornerstone -niv
out of him came forth the corner -kjv

Matthew 21:42
has become the capstone -niv
is become the head of the corner -kjv <----This is referring to a capstone

Mark 12:10
has become the capstone -niv
is become the head of the corner -kjv <----This is referring to a capstone

Luke 20:17
has become the capstone -niv
is become the head of the corner -kjv <----This is referring to a capstone

Acts 4:11
which has become the capstone -niv This is the verse in question.
is become the head of the corner -kjv

Ephesians 2:20
Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone -niv
Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone -kjv

I Peter 2:4-7
chosen and precious cornerstone -niv
chief corner stone, elect, precious -kjv


A corner stone can be a foundation stone, but is the "head of the corner" the foundation or the top?
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:20 PM
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Consistency, my dear tmonk, consistency...

That's the ticket!

cornerstone/corner stone = head of the corner = head stone = chief corner stone

capstone <> cornerstone

NIV jumps back and forth, KJB is consistent
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:32 PM
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KJB is consistent
Would you say that is true 100% of the time in a single context in the KJ?
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:54 PM
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Jesus is the cornerstone which is part of the foundation, the first stone laid, not the capstone which is the top, the last stone laid.

Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

So, still think your corrupt version gives the correct comprehension??
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:41 PM
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GT, I am discussing only this particular topic here. If you want to discuss the broader question, we can do it through email. I won't discuss the KJB itself, or compare versions with you on this forum. It is not conducive to civility.
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Agreed
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TMonk asked:
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A corner stone can be a foundation stone, but is the "head of the corner" the foundation or the top?
"Head" does not refer to location (that is, the top or highest stone), but to importance (the rest of the foundation and building are aligned to it). "Head" is used in the same sense that "chief" is.
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Consistency, my dear tmonk, consistency...

That's the ticket!

cornerstone/corner stone = head of the corner = head stone = chief corner stone

capstone <> cornerstone

NIV jumps back and forth, KJB is consistent
That's the terminology used by medieval stonemasons for the first founding cornerstone.

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