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Just-A-Thought:--- I must get to bed soon (too often I try and help/fix/inform folks on the internet and the clock keeps on ticking...).

Please look at the front page of this website. There are several things to read with information about versions and verses and things to be careful about.

The reason that I included the RSV [Revised Standard Version] in my post above is the horrid way they mutilated Isa. 7:14. It should read "Virgin", but they changed it to read "young woman". That is a prophetical verse about the birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ. If a Virgin gets pregnant...That is a miracle. If a young woman gets pregnant...well, that happens every day around the planet. What the RSV did was diminish the "special" or "extraordinary" aspect of what happened with Mary, Joseph, and Bethlehem. The RSV was funded/sponsored by The National Council of Churches. They are an ecumenical umbrella group. Fogs my mind how people that claim to be Christians would fund/print such stuff.

They now have the NRSV which has gone down the gender-bender road.

As to the NIV--- This is one of the worst ones because it to came about by some church folks in the U.S. that got together and decided that the youngsters in their churches didn't understand the Bible ,,,soooo, they wanted to translate/print one with several folks of good intentions (Evangelical type Christians.) , but they have done at least 2 big mistakes:

1st---> They adopted what is called the "Thought-for-thought" translation technique. { Hey Fred what thought do you think the Apostle Paul was trying to convey to people in Corinth in 50-60 A.D....and how does that thought get through to Susie Q. that lives in Chicago nowadays..?}

I like the "Word-for-Word" technique. Much less chance of human bias entering the text that way.

2nd----> They use the Alexandrian Texts and their translation is very close to the Roman Catholic editions. This is can be seen when they cut out part of The Lord's Prayer.... Just as The Douay-Rheims version did which was a Romish translation into English at about the same time as the A.V... Beware!

Another word that the NIV changes is a very important one. "Propitiation". ... Meaning: appeasing wrath. see Romans 3:25.

Several verses are not even printed in the NIV. If you attend a Sunday School or Bible Study group and the leader/teacher is going along reading the lesson...the NIV owner will be left in the dark. Check the front page of this website... I'm not making this stuff up!

Please click on this link to the Trinitarian Bible Society and get some more info. Look in the margins of their home page and see/click on "Articles". Read them and also order some of their pamphlets about the NIV/NKJV/The A.V. and many other topics. Read and think and read some more. Investigate.

www.trinitarianbiblesociety.org

Go over to Sermon Audio.com and look for messages/sermons from speakers of The TBS. I heard one earlier today by a gent named Blunt. He was talking about the many places that the NIV leaves out verses and the danger of hacking and chopping away at God's Words! ( I think it might have been called: "The Danger(s) of Modern Versions" ). Give it a listen. They also have many messages from Dr. D.A.Waite of New Jersey concerning the Bible and other versions/editions.

Basically the good manuscripts/copies/texts are known as the "Antioch"-- from the town where Christianity really got it's start in the early days.

The bad or not-so-good/questionable manuscripts/texts/copies are the ones called "Alexandria" (in Egypt). The city was home to many greeks and gnostic types. The gnostics did not like the idea that Christ Jesus {born of Mary in Bethlehem} was actually born/did actually have a human body. Whenever they could cast doubt upon Our Lord,,, they did...by either altering a verse, or leaving it out, or by making a note in the margin of the page.


Read "Which Bible ?" by Fuller and also "The King James Bible Defended" by Hills. These should help you and give you much information.