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Old 11-05-2008, 07:14 PM
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Does anyone think that Obama could be the anti-christ? Or, paving the way for the anti-christ?
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:10 PM
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not the anti-Christ, but definitely paving the way...
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:17 PM
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Does anyone think that Obama could be the anti-christ? Or, paving the way for the anti-christ?
The Antichrist will be a Jew, and will come from Syria. He'll probably assume the Papacy, or at least take complete control of the Catholic Church, thus uniting in himself all three "great religions:" a Jew, a native of Muslim Syria, and a "Christian."

I think his election might very well be part of the process of smoothing the path for the Antichrist. It's clear from Scripture that, in the very end times (like the Tribulation), the real centers of power will be Europe and the Middle East. (The "kings of the east" play a part, too: and China is now coming on strong.) By then, America must be a third or fourth-rate power, and Obama is just the man to get us there with his "international" outlook and his weakness on defense.

A man like Reagan, or maybe even McCain, wouldn't hand over all our sovereignty to the UN or the European Union. But Obama might do just that.

So, Obama's election might mean that the Tribulation is right around the corner. But we figured that the Rapture could come any day, so it's no big surprise!
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:21 PM
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So, Obama's election might mean that the Tribulation is right around the corner. But we figured that the Rapture could come any day, so it's no big surprise!
You're right. If you think about it, we should be rejoicing right now because the Lord is coming soon!
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:59 PM
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The Antichrist will be a Jew, and will come from Syria.[quote]

Where does it say that in the bible??

So, Obama's election might mean that the Tribulation is right around the corner. But we figured that the Rapture could come any day, so it's no big surprise![QUOTE]

And can someone find me a verse where its talks about this rapture cause as far as i can see there is no such thing we'll all be here until the end!!!
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:29 PM
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The Antichrist will be a Jew, and will come from Syria.
Where does it say that in the bible not trying to debate just want to find it.

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So, Obama's election might mean that the Tribulation is right around the corner. But we figured that the Rapture could come any day, so it's no big surprise!
Where in the bible does it say anything about a rapture. Im pretty sure that we are all here till the end.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:09 PM
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Where in the bible does it say anything about a rapture. Im pretty sure that we are all here till the end.
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That's a good question, some Christians hold to a different doctrine, however I do not believe God's adopted children in this dispensation of grace will go through the tribulation or "Jacob's trouble." I assume that is what you mean by "the end."

To be clear---I am talking about the children of God who have trusted Christ's blood for redemption, those who have received God's gift of salvation and have been "born again." (Eph. 2:8-9, John 1:12, John 3:3-6)

Please remember in Genesis when God destroyed the world he lifted his people above the flood and destruction first. I snatched this info below off another site, should give you some fuel for further study, God bless...

According to the Bible, Jesus will one day come down out of heaven and then He will "snatch up" all Christians (living and dead) off of the earth to meet Him in the clouds. This "snatching up" of Christians is often referred to as "the Rapture of the Church." Here are two of the main passages which describe the Rapture:

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18)

"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." (1 Corinthians 15:50-53)

The Greek word harpazo means "to seize ... catch (away, up), pluck, pull, take (by force)" (Strong's Greek Dictionary), and it is translated as "caught up" in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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Old 11-07-2008, 01:29 AM
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Bro. Parrish:
What about when Jesus is talking about the tribulation of when the father shall give up tha son to death and the children will give the parents to death.

In Revelation with the seven churches when it says be faithful until the end that you may recieve your crown, hold that which you have let no man steal your crown be faithful until the end.

matthew 24:9
then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

MATTHEW24:29-31
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see tha Son of Man coming in the cloudsof heaven with power and great glory.
And he shall send his angels with great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Thats jus scripture saying that we WILL be here for the tribulation i mean its nice to think we wont be that would be really nice but this is God's Word.

So if u believe in the rapture your going to have to show me scriptures backing it up becuase we must take heed that no man decieve us in the times. For many will be decieved even the very elect.
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:31 AM
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Just one more thing try to keep these scriptures in context because you can make the bible say anything when you take it out of context.
God Bless
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The Antichrist will be a Jew, and will come from Syria. He'll probably assume the Papacy, or at least take complete control of the Catholic Church, thus uniting in himself all three "great religions:" a Jew, a native of Muslim Syria, and a "Christian."

I think his election might very well be part of the process of smoothing the path for the Antichrist. It's clear from Scripture that, in the very end times (like the Tribulation), the real centers of power will be Europe and the Middle East. (The "kings of the east" play a part, too: and China is now coming on strong.) By then, America must be a third or fourth-rate power, and Obama is just the man to get us there with his "international" outlook and his weakness on defense.

A man like Reagan, or maybe even McCain, wouldn't hand over all our sovereignty to the UN or the European Union. But Obama might do just that.

So, Obama's election might mean that the Tribulation is right around the corner. But we figured that the Rapture could come any day, so it's no big surprise!
Was Syria considered a part of Persia in Daniel's day?

Peace and Love,
Stephen
 

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