[PeterAV]

Originally Posted by buzzoff1031

Actually, my pastor recommended the Old Scofield (from like, 1917 I think) because if said they change stuff in the newer ones. I was thinking about just starting in Genesis and just reading through like a regular book, what do you guys think?

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If you decide on Scofield, then by ALL MEANS get the old one 1917.
The text has not been fiddled with like the modern Scofield Bibles.
Some should get kicked out for using the term King James.
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Personally, I do not go to the Study Bibles at all.
Some of the notes may be great but they do detract from your actual reading of the text.
You can read your Bible in only 7 weeks at the rate of an hour or two a day.
[30 pages].
Seeing that my eyes grow dim, I try to use a larger print Bible.
I particularly like cross reference Bibles. The column is usually in the centre, but some are ushered to the margins.
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PeterAV
Every word of God is pure:=PCE KJB, Namely, The Holy Bible.

[buzzoff1031]

I'm pretty sure I'll go with the Scofield. I like the Evidence Bible because of the helps. And as I've compared it, it really does seem as though all they've changed are the "thee's and thou's" and endings like -est and -eth. Do you guys still think that's changing too much?

[stephanos]

Originally Posted by buzzoff1031

I'm pretty sure I'll go with the Scofield. I like the Evidence Bible because of the helps. And as I've compared it, it really does seem as though all they've changed are the "thee's and thou's" and endings like -est and -eth. Do you guys still think that's changing too much?

Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. (Proverbs 30:5 KJV)

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. (Matthew 24:35 KJV)

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. (Psalms 119:160 KJV)

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. (Deuteronomy 4:2 KJV)

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (Revelation 22:18-20 KJV)

The Evidence Bible is an abomination! It's full of Lordship Salvation heresy and is rank with changes to God's preserved Words.

God's Word is sufficient for ALL men.

Peace and Love,
Stephen

[buzzoff1031]

What is Lordship salvation?

[MC1171611]

Originally Posted by buzzoff1031

What is Lordship salvation?

Lordship Salvation is the teaching that one must not only accept Jesus as his Saviour, but that he also must accept Him as his Lord, meaning that the man rejects sin and from then on will walk only in the light and stay away from sin.

That would be great and all, but they seem to forget that someone that gets saved still has their flesh and will always struggle with sin no matter how crucified they are with Christ. That's not to say that one cannot have victory, but until we get to Heaven, we'll always be fighting with our flesh to serve God.

I'll see if I can get together a post on State vs. Standing as it deals with Salvation. I'm away from the house right now and don't have time, but perhaps later tonight I'll put something up.

[buzzoff1031]

See, that's what I was starting to believe. The Lordship salvation thing. But I think I understand that all is required is that you realize you're a sinner, and Jesus died for those sins. Then trust in Him to cover those sins. Is that right, or close?

[stephanos]

Originally Posted by buzzoff1031

See, that's what I was starting to believe. The Lordship salvation thing. But I think I understand that all is required is that you realize you're a sinner, and Jesus died for those sins. Then trust in Him to cover those sins. Is that right, or close?

You're right. For someone to be saved, all they must do is repent of their trusting in anything else to get into heaven (for the road to hell is paved with men and their works) and believe that it is only through the work that Christ did on the Cross that a man can find salvation. Salvation is of the Lord!

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6 KJV)

Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16:29-31 KJV)

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (Romans 10:9 KJV)

Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV)

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. (John 3:14-15 KJV)

Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. (Isaiah 45:22 KJV)


Peace and Love,
Stephen

[Steve54]

Originally Posted by MC1171611

Lordship Salvation is the teaching that one must not only accept Jesus as his Saviour, but that he also must accept Him as his Lord, meaning that the man rejects sin and from then on will walk only in the light and stay away from sin.

That is what I certainly believe and do try my best to do. As I heard it so well put in the beginning of my walk with our blessed Savior...I do this imperfectly, but sincerely. I don't know exactly what that means, but it sure fits my walk. I have committed what is to me one of the gravest of sins...the killing of an innocent human being...and all I can do is give my life wholly and truly to God, stay on my face before Him, put His Word on my heart, love, and spread the Word. That may be tremendously simplistic, but it is all I know how to do. I don't know what it is called, but I don't need a name for it. I hope that makes some sense.

[MC1171611]

The Bible says in Ephesians 2:10 "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." After we get saved, we most certainly are expected to serve God with our whole heart: if He gave the greatest sacrifice known to mankind, then how can we neglect to give Him everything we have?

The problem enters when Christians look at someone who has a testimony of Salvation, and says they must not be saved since they haven't surrendered to Christ as their Lord. True, we SHOULD surrender, and that's what God desires of His children, but to add that to Salvation, and claim that someone who doesn't show signs of surrender can't be saved is clearly adding to the Gospel of our Lord.

I'm not negating the importance of service: I'm simply pointing out that requiring that in addition to Faith for Salvation is what Paul would call "Another gospel," i.e. Paul Washer, Ray Comfort, etc. They have some good stuff, but they tend to overemphasize works.