[Brother Tim]

George, in reference to Paul's "my gospel", what did the rest of the apostles and other missionaries preach wherever they traveled? Did Peter and John keep silent other than the letters they wrote?

[George]

Originally Posted by Winman

Bro George

I thought post #196 was excellent and I learned a lot from it. Yes, your posts are a little long, but I understand that completely. Sometimes I go on a little long myself only because I want to make sure the reader understands what I am trying to convey.

The ONE AND ONLY verse I saw in Peter's sermon in Acts 3 that might also refer to the Gentiles is Acts 3:26

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Now, that word "first" really caught my attention. I would have probably asked Peter what he meant by "first" if I had been present. I tend to hang on small details like this.

But other than that, I think you proved your point very well, and am in agreement with it. I think I have a clearer understanding now of these "different" gospels.

Now, that said, I do not understand this "difference" in how people are saved. I have always believed that all persons, whether Jew or Gentile in any age were saved by faith alone without works. I have seen a few here who speak of "faith and works". I gotta tell you, this is a tough pill to swallow for me. If you would like to explain I will be glad to study it.

Aloha brother Winman,

I thank you for your kind words, and am pleased that you have "searched the Scriptures" to see if what I have presented is according to the truth.

Your observation on Acts 3:26 is very "keen" and "perceptive":

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

And I too have wondered:

1. Whether Peter was fully aware about "whom" he was speaking of in that verse.

2. Whether the "you first" was in relation to the rest of Israel {At this time the apostles and disciples were all still in Jerusalem}

3. Or whether there is a "prophetic" element to the words "you first", which if there is, then it could be in relation to the future Gentile believers. {Although if it is - I doubt if Peter was aware of it at the time.}

I will try to answer your inquiry shortly, but let me say this: In every "age", and under every "covenant", God has required of men (mankind) that they BELIEVE His words and OBEY them. I'm not so sure about that it breaks down to a "FAITH" plus "WORKS" situation.

I have said before:

The common "thread" that runs through all of God's people (saints - before the flood & after the flood; before the Law & during the Law) is FAITH. FAITH in God's words; FAITH in God's promises; FAITH in God's being able to perform His covenants; FAITH IN GOD! Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Noah was NOT "saved" by believing the "Gospel" of Jesus Christ (that Paul preached). Noah was "saved" (and "his house") because when God warned him of the Flood that was coming ("things not seen as yet"), he believed God's warning (that is - what God had revealed unto him about the coming Flood) and, though he couldn't SEE any physical evidence of the Flood, by faith he obeyed God and built the Ark. {Believing in the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ (Paul's Gospel) had nothing to do with his "salvation". And by the way, his "salvation" was from the Flood (a physical catastrophe caused by God), not from Hell - that's another matter all together.}

The "believing" is the same under every Covenant, but the "faith" is not - That is why it is so important for Bible believers to "rightly divide" between "BELIEF" and "FAITH".

God has required of everyone under every Covenant and in every "age" that they "BELIEVE" His words {Oral or Written} and OBEY them. We are very fortunate that under the "New" Covenant: All we have to do to get saved is to "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, . . . ." {When WE "BELIEVE" in Christ's death, burial, and resurrection and "RECEIVE" Him as our personal Saviour, we have done (obeyed) all that God has required of us (under the "New" Covenant) to get saved} - But, it hasn't always been the "same" for those people (living under different "Covenants") who lived before Christ's death, burial, and resurrection; and it won't be the same for those who are left after we are translated out of this world.

I will try to further expound on this as soon as I can.

Originally Posted by George

Aloha brother Parrish,

My problem is simply - WHY is the practice of water Baptism so important that this Thread has over 200 Posts in it?

Why is Baptism important? I don't know George, you'll have to ask God that question, He's the one who established the practice, not me! I could just as easily ask WHO CARES how many posts there are? Frankly, that's a non issue in my book. I'll tell you one thing, the fact that there are over 3,500 views tells me people are interested enough to read it, and that tells me there is possibly a fair amount of confusion on it.

Originally Posted by George

If it is just an outward profession ("symbolic") of an inward work of Grace (being "Baptized" by the Holy Ghost - Acts 11:16) WHY make such a "big deal" over it? WHAT MORE do you want me to say? I have already said that I disagree with brother Tony on this issue, and am in agreement with you - I believe that water Baptism is for the church today.

Yes I know you agree with me, and I'm glad we are in agreement on this brother. Is it a big deal? In some cases yes. Some people here are suggesting that Christians who are following the New Testament pattern of believer's baptism are doing something that is UNSCRIPTURAL. I've already replied to that several times here why I think it is important. When people come on here and claim believer's baptism is part of the Mosaic Law and UNSCRIPTURAL, I do consider that a BIG DEAL, especially considering the track record of Hyperdispensationalists with regard to splitting Bible churches all over the nation since Bullinger started that nonsense. I've been very clear about all of this, as my posts will show, but I'm certainly not emotional or angry about it. If you don't want to respond, then don't. If anyone doesn't like the thread, there are plenty of other good ones here, and it's a free country.

Originally Posted by George

I apologize for my Posts being so long, but I have Scriptural reasons for everything that I believe; and I can't explain some of the reasons that I believe something in just a paragraph or two.

Well let's be clear; thank you my friend, but no need for apologies. I don't care how long your threads are, and I never complained about the length of your posts. YES, I do like things to stay on topic, but that's really not my call as I am not a moderator just a lowly layman. Post whatever you want brother, I was just curious and that's why I asked the question.

Originally Posted by George

There is no reason to get upset or put out with me

Not at all, I'm not upset about it in the least.

Originally Posted by George

if you believe that I am wrong, well then "prove it" (through the Scriptures). And if you don't care to disprove what I have presented, that's fine with me also.

PERFECT, I appreciate that. For the record, I still nothing to change anything I have posted (I already stated my view with scripture in post 181) but I'm glad it's fine with you, and I can certainly live with that. Pass the lemonade...

[Forrest]

Originally Posted by George

#3. The Scriptures state: “But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.” [Galatians 4:4-5] The Lord Jesus Christ came in fulfillment of Jewish prophecies; to fulfill Jewish promises; made exclusively to the Jewish people. The Bible says He came: “To redeem them that were under the law”, i.e. Jews (Hebrews/Israelites) – NOT Gentiles. And He Himself reaffirmed this when He said: “But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” [Matthew 15:24]

Please notice: According to the testimony of Scripture: the Lord Jesus Christ came exclusively to the “lost sheep of the house of Israel” (NOT the Gentiles) in order to “redeem them that were under the law” (ONLY the Jews were “under the law”). That is WHY it is so crucial to “rightly divide” the Lord’s words in the Gospels, because most of his words (while He was ministering on earth) were directed to the nation of Israel (Jews/Hebrew/Israelites) and NOT to the church (New Testament blood bought Saints).

If Christians do not “rightly divide” God’s word on this crucial issue, they cannot “make sense” of much of the Gospels and will eventually end up attempting to “HARMONIZE” the word of truth, instead of “rightly DIVIDING the word of truth”.

Greetings, Brother George. As always thank you for your thorough exposition of the word of God. God continues using you in my life as a "mentor" and "teacher". The "Master Teacher" is using you to minister to His body!

I need some clarification on post #188 under point #3 quoted in part above. Here is my question. I know the "law" was specifically written to the Hebrew/Israelite as you pointed out, but are all people "kept under the law" in a general sense?

Galatians 3:22-25 But the scripture hath concluded all [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] that believe. But before faith came, we [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] schoolmaster to bring us [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] unto Christ, that we [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentile?] might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] are no longer under a schoolmaster.

If "we" and "them" and "our" and "us" and "all" includes the Gentiles also, then wouldn't Galatians 4:4-5 which says, "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons" also be a promise to include the Gentiles, not just the Hebrew/Israelite?

[George]

Originally Posted by Brother Tim

"George, in reference to Paul's "my gospel", what did the rest of the apostles and other missionaries preach wherever they traveled? Did Peter and John keep silent other than the letters they wrote?"

Aloha brother Tim,

First off, let’s settle the matter of the Apostle Paul’s “relationship” with those brethren (Apostles, Prophets, elders, and the whole church) in Jerusalem:

The Apostle Paul & Barnabas accepted by the brethren in Jerusalem [Acts 15:1-35]

Acts 15:1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.

Acts 15:22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:
31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.

The Apostle Paul (& his friends) accepted by the brethren in Jerusalem.[Acts 21:17-26]

Acts 21:17 And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly.

The Apostle Peter’s assessment of Paul’s Epistles [2 Peter 3:11-18]

2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

To answer your questions:

“in reference to Paul's "my gospel", what did the rest of the apostles and other missionaries preach wherever they traveled?”

Paul and his companions (including Apollos) preached Paul’s “Gospel” throughout the Mediterranean area.

“Did Peter and John keep silent other than the letters they wrote?”

Of course not! According to the Scriptural record - they didn’t travel around that much, and so they didn’t have much opportunity to preach & teach outside of the Jews immediate sphere of influence (Jerusalem, Judea, Galilee, the rest of the land of Israel, Samaria and Caesarea.)

The DIFFERENCE Between the “Apostleship” of Peter and Paul[Galatians 2: 1-21]

Galatians 2:1 Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
5 To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.
6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:

7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles

9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

According to the testimony of Scripture:

1. The “gospel” (good news) of the uncircumcision was committed to the Apostle Paul.

2. The “gospel” (good news) of the circumcision was committed to the Apostle Peter.

3. God “wrought” effectually in the Apostle Peter to the “apostleship” of the circumcision.

4. God “wrought” effectually in the Apostle Paul to the “apostleship” of the Gentiles.

5. Paul was approved to “go unto the heathen”.

6. Peter was approved to go “unto the circumcision”.

What is clear is that these two men (Peter & Paul) had DIFFERENT “apostleship’s” - i.e. DIFFERENT “Ministries”. At this point in time I do not think that they had two totally separate “gospels”, but I do believe that Peter and James (along with most, if not all, of the Jews that received Christ in Jerusalem), still followed at least some of the Law, and still attended the Temple [Acts 5:42]). In other words they had a peculiarly Jewish “form” of “Christianity”, which practically disappeared with the destruction of the Temple and the scattering of the Jews in 70 A.D. {This peculiarly Jewish “form” of Christianity is now being resurrected by modern day “JUDAIZERS” (Jews & Gentiles alike) who think that they can “please God in the flesh” by observing some (of course NOT ALL) of the Jewish “customs” and Laws that were in effect at the time of Christ}

Have you ever asked yourself - in the face of the Lord Jesus Christ’s clear Commandment?

Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

WHY is it that most of those Disciples present at “the great commission” stuck around Jerusalem, and Judea, and Israel proper, and didn’t go out and DO what the Lord Jesus Christ commanded them to DO? The indisputable fact is (according to the Scriptural record), most of the Lord Jesus Christ’s Disciples either ignored His clear commandment (and were disobedient to Christ’s will for them -and were out of the will of God) – or they were obeying God (and were in His will) by sticking around Jerusalem, etc.
WHICH is it, and WHY?

[George]

Originally Posted by Forrest

Greetings, Brother George. As always thank you for your thorough exposition of the word of God. God continues using you in my life as a "mentor" and "teacher". The "Master Teacher" is using you to minister to His body!

I need some clarification on post #188 under point #3 quoted in part above. Here is my question. I know the "law" was specifically written to the Hebrew/Israelite as you pointed out, but are all people "kept under the law" in a general sense?

Galatians 3:22-25 But the scripture hath concluded all [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] that believe. But before faith came, we [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] schoolmaster to bring us [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] unto Christ, that we [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentile?] might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we [does this include both Hebrews/Israelites and Gentiles?] are no longer under a schoolmaster.

If "we" and "them" and "our" and "us" and "all" includes the Gentiles also, then wouldn't Galatians 4:4-5 which says, "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons" also be a promise to include the Gentiles, not just the Hebrew/Israelite?

Aloha brother Forrest,

As always - you always ask the "HARD" questions! But also the very "thoughtful" questions.

I'm a little bit under the weather and nursing a "sore throat". I will try to answer your question real soon. {IF I can!}

[Brother Tim]

Brother George,
First, thanks for the response. You laid out the relationship of the leadership during the Acts era well. You stated that you did not see where Peter and John would have been preaching a different or separate Gospel in Jerusalem than Paul was. I agree for that would have created great confusion. That Peter and the others may have continued some of their Jewish practices is very possible, though Peter's vision should have changed some of that. Paul later reprimands Peter for showing his old Jewish behavior. We cannot say that the Jerusalem Christians would have been able to continue openly their traditions (such as the temple worship) after Stephen's death and the scattering.

Which brings me to my next answer (and a question):
Yes, the early disciples neglected Jesus' instructions. Things became to comfortable, and they were not spreading out as they should have. God sent persecution via Saul to accomplish that. The ones that left carried the Gospel message wherever they went, (Acts 8:4) apparently not restricting the hearers to Jews only. These witnesses would not have had any opportunity for connection with Paul's teaching. They would have been fulfilling the Great Commission mandate. Since we do not know how far some went, is it not possible that just as Philip spoke to Samaritans (non-Jews), some of these believers could have gone throughout the then known world, speaking to whomsoever they met?

Finally, Peter preached to the Gentiles in Cornelius' house. They were received as equals when they believed. Was his "Gospel" any different than Paul's then?

Emphasis mine

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43 To him give all the prophets witness [OT!], that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. [THE GOSPEL!]
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? [Gentiles being baptized, Tony, and NOT John's baptism! - see next verse - They already have the baptism of the Holy Ghost and HAVE BEEN already saved!]
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

Originally Posted by chette777

BroParish,

the Baptism of Acts 2 has nothing to do with today's believers baptism. the only reason I pointed it out was also to show you that the Peter did not preach the Gospel of grace or the baptism he taught was the same. the only similarity that the Baptism of Acts2 and today is that they both employed full immersion in water. other than that they are different as the gospels being preached.

I'm not sure we are ever going to agree on that Chette, but like George said I'm fine with it. Again, I don't see different Gospels being preached there. YOU see that, not me. I see the death burial and resurrection of Christ, that is the Gospel according to I Corinthians 15:1-4. My position is the same; I CERTAINLY appreciate and understand the transitional nature of the Book of Acts and the importance of RIGHTLY dividing the Word. MY GOSPEL, HIS GOSPEL, THEIR GOSPEL, PAUL'S GOSPEL, PETER'S GOSPEL, I've heard it all before... like I said, some people divide it, ride it, and chop it up until the sun goes down—I have seen this for many many years. But my simple position on this is the same; THE GOSPEL here is the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. (Corinthians 15:1-4) That is EXACTLY what Peter preached in Acts 2, as I have already shown in post 181. The fact that the Gospel went to the Jew first is common knowledge, and the various "methods" used by the Holy Ghost in Acts are certainly in transition and they are what they are. But it's still the Gospel, it's still the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and it doesn't change my position on believer's baptism at all. Believer's baptism is for BELIEVERS TODAY. Pass the popcorn...

[Fredoheaven]

Originally Posted by Bro. Parrish

Why is Baptism important? I don't know George, you'll have to ask God that question, He's the one who established the practice, not me! ...

Been thinking why baptism is all there as a very important to bible believers of today. And I came out with a very simple reasons as follows:

1. Identification and Distinction. Like your personal name, business name, company name, AV1611 Forum website are all as important, in the same manner, baptism of today is of very important. This also gave us distinction from others, example FFForum do not believe KJV as the Word of God, here in AV1611 Forum by Bro Brandon and we have you Bro. George, you Bro. Parrish, BibleProtector,Will Kinney,BroTim,Winman, Bro. Tony,Chette, Luke etal as a staunch defender of this site believing the Word of God(KJV/KJB/AV/KJAV). This makes a real difference from other unchristian forums.

2. Items Highly Valuable. The seven(7) last sayings of Christ at the cross are of most value. Christ also said that the last shall be the first.

Matthew 19:30 But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.

So that I've been thinking about how important a last will and testament. Accordingly, "a will is also used as the instrument in a trust. A traditional will is also called a last will and testament, or a testamentary will. It is a legally binding document that defines how the testator would like his property distributed when he dies. It may also define his wishes concerning who becomes guardian over his minor children." (quoted frm:http://ezinearticles.com/?Last-Will-...ment&id=220011). The similitude, the testator(Christ Heb.9:16), leave his valuable to his children as guardian. We are to keep and observe it until the end of this world.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

[George]

Originally Posted by Winman

Bro George

I thought post #196 was excellent and I learned a lot from it. Yes, your posts are a little long, but I understand that completely. Sometimes I go on a little long myself only because I want to make sure the reader understands what I am trying to convey.

The ONE AND ONLY verse I saw in Peter's sermon in Acts 3 that might also refer to the Gentiles is Acts 3:26

Acts 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Now, that word "first" really caught my attention. I would have probably asked Peter what he meant by "first" if I had been present. I tend to hang on small details like this.

But other than that, I think you proved your point very well, and am in agreement with it. I think I have a clearer understanding now of these "different" gospels.

Now, that said, I do not understand this "difference" in how people are saved. I have always believed that all persons, whether Jew or Gentile in any age were saved by faith alone without works. I have seen a few here who speak of "faith and works". I gotta tell you, this is a tough pill to swallow for me. If you would like to explain I will be glad to study it.

Aloha brother Winman,

I will attempt to "expound" on the first few Chapters of Acts, and perhaps that will help explain where I am coming from, and how I try to "rightly divide" God's Holy word. I hope and pray this may be of some help to you.

As you read - Ask yourself: WHO is speaking? And to WHOM is he speaking to? [Acts Chapter 1]

Acts 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen: {Only Jews}
3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: {Only Jews}
4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. {Only Jews}
5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. {Only Jews}
6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this timerestore again the kingdom to Israel? {Only Jews}
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. {Only Jews}
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. {Only Jews}
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. {Only Jews}
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; {Only Jews}
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. {Only Jews}
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey. {Only Jews}
13 And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James. {Only Jews}
14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren. {Only Jews}
15 And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) {Only Jews}
16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. {Only Jews}
17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. {Only Jews}
18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. {Only Jews}
19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. {Only Jews}
20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. {Only Jews}
21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, {Only Jews}
22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. {Only Jews}
23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. {Only Jews}
24 And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, {Only Jews}
25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. {Only Jews}
26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. {Only Jews}

In order to “set the stage” (so to speak), we have to be aware that what follows in Acts Chapters 2 through 7 is predicated upon the fact that, at the very beginning of the “preaching” of and about Jesus Christ, AFTER His Resurrection and Ascension into Heaven, all those who were doing the “preaching” were Jews (ONLY), and, to begin with, ALL those to whom the “preaching” was directed, were also Jews (ONLY) as I hope to demonstrate as we go along.

As you read - Ask yourself: WHO is speaking? And to WHOM is he speaking to? [Acts Chapter 2]

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. {Only Jews}
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. {Only Jews}
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. {Only Jews}
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. {Only Jews}
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; {A Hebrew Prophet}
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: {Only Jews}
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: {Only Jews}
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: {The “Day of the Lord”}
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: {The “Day of the Lord”}
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. {The “Day of the Lord”}

WHAT HAPPENED? Verses 16 through 18 obviously were “fulfilled” right then (on the day of Pentecost) – BUT WHAT HAPPENED to verses 19 & 20? There is NO Scriptural record of verses 19 & 20 ever having been fulfilled. Was the Prophet Joel MISTAKEN? Was the Apostle Peter MISTAKEN when he quoted ALL of Joel’s prophesy? Did the Holy Spirit lead Peter to say something that wasn’t true; or only “partially” true? {I’m speaking “facetiously” – of course!}

I shall “expound” on WHY verses 19 & 20 were NOT fulfilled; and WHY they WILL be FULFILLED in the FUTURE {later on}

22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: {Only Jews}

This “message” is DIRECTED to WHOM? WHY to - “Ye men of Israel”! If there were any Gentiles around that might of heard the “message”, they would have understood that the Apostle Peter was NOT speaking to them, but to the “men of Israel” ONLY!

Don’t forget – The Bible is not only a Book about “doctrine”, and “spiritual things”; it is also a Book on and about “history”. We must keep the “historical setting” in mind, if we are to “rightly divide” God’s words.

23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: {Only Jews}
Here is a clear “accusation” (by the Apostle Peter) that the “men of Israel” were responsible for the killing of “Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God” {Does this sound like Paul’s “Gospel” – yet?}
24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved: {A Hebrew King & Prophet}
26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope: {A Hebrew King & Prophet}
27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. {A Hebrew King & Prophet}
28 Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance. {A Hebrew King & Prophet}
29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. {“Men and brethren” = Only Jews}
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; {A Hebrew King & Prophet}
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. {A Hebrew King & Prophet}
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. {Only Jews}
Is the Apostle Peter “preaching” Christ died for your sins according to the Scriptures; and was buried, and rose again the third day according to the Scriptures? Or is he saying that the “men of Israel” killed “Jesus of Nazareth”, and God has raised Him up?33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, {A Hebrew King & Prophet - Prophesying}
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. {A Hebrew King & Prophet - Prophesying }
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. {Only Jews}

Are we (Christians) “the house of Israel”? Peter is notifying “all the house of Israel” that the “same Jesus” that they CRUCIFIED - is both “LORD” and “CHRIST”! How can this “message” be the “same” as Paul’s “Gospel”? Peter is NOT talking about “Christ dying for our sins”; he is plainly saying that the “man” known as “Jesus of Nazareth”; whom the “men of Israel” slew, is “BOTH LORD & CHRIST”! This “message” is meant to convince the nation of Israel that Jesus Christ is the Lord from Heaven and their Messiah.

37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? {Men and brethren = Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. {Only Jews or Jewish Proselytes}

WHAT HAPPENED to Matthew 28:18-20?

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Let me ask you: If you have been baptized (in water) – were you baptized “in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins”? And did you receive the Holy Ghost AFTER you were baptized in water? This is what the “Cambellites” (“Church of Christ”) teach; is this “sound doctrine” for a Bible believing Christian?

When I believed on the Lord Jesus Christ and received Him as my personal Saviour in October, 1958 I instantly received “the remission of (my) sins” – WITHOUT getting a toe wet! And I instantly received the “gift” of the Holy Spirit - WITHOUT water Baptism - just exactly like ALL Gentile believers have since the Apostle Peter “opened the door” to the Gentiles long ago [Acts 10:34-48]. It should be clear to most people reading these verses that “something else” is going on here; and that clearly the water “Baptism” practiced here is NOT the “SAME” as the water “Baptism” practiced by the Apostle Paul; and the “message” (“gospel”) that the Apostle Peter is preaching here is NOT the “SAME” the “Gospel” that the Apostle Paul preached.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. {Only Jews}
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. {Only Jews}
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. {All Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. {All Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. {All Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common; {All Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. {All Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, {All Jews or Jewish Proselytes}
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. {All Jews or Jewish Proselytes}

Now, just exactly WHAT were these people (Jews & Proselytes) required to believe and do (at this point in time)? Were they told the Apostle Paul’s “Gospel”?

Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Or were they told Peter’s “gospel”?

37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

The two “Gospels” clearly are NOT the “SAME”. In order for anyone to get “saved” today they MUST BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ and RECEIVE Him as their Saviour. In order for those Jews & Proselytes to get “saved” at Pentecost, they had to BELIEVE that “Jesus of Nazareth” was both their Lord & Messiah; and REPENT (of killing Him), and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. And if they OBEYED Peter’s command they received “the gift of the Holy Ghost”. A man’s Salvation (under any “covenant”) has always been dependent upon BELIEVING what God has said (at that time), and DOING what he says.

If we will just believe what is written and where it is written, and keep in mind - WHO is speaking, and to WHOM he is speaking, much of Scripture becomes understandable.

I will get to Acts Chapters 3 -7 as soon as I am feeling better and can find the time to expound further on the verses.