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Pastor Schwenke,
Just wanted you to know I sent you a message to the e-mail address on your public profile: pastorschwenke@yahoo.com |
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Moved!
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Some items/responses of a personal nature that arose on this thread have been moved to "General Chit-Chat." Pam www.custerfamilyfarm.com |
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Amanda from Love and Race Thread
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This thread was never about whether it is or is not God's will that believers marry unbelievers. Everybody has agreed it is not. This thread is about the nature of marriage as revealed in the scriptures. You and I have agreed on the Acceptable/Unacceptable Reasons for Divorce thread that God does make provision for us even in divorce and remarriage. He also makes provision for a believer marrying an unbeliever by sanctifying the unbelieving spouse. My focus is that the christian life is not about following laws and rules but it is about being in Christ so that we will not perform the works of the flesh. If you look up every instance of the word "bondage" it refers to Israel being delivered into or delivered out of slavery by God... until Romans where Paul uses the word in reference to the law of sin, and then in other epistles the word is used in reference to the Law and the elements of the world. The word bondage in 1 Co 7:15 carries the meaning of being tied to a vow. Paul refers to a brother or sister being released from the bonds of a vow, a covenant. He is not referring to being freed from servitude or slavery to something. Marriage is not slavery or servitude or even "working together" with another person. It is a covenant in which a man and a woman are "joined" together as one flesh. They are not "yoked" together to plough the fields. The sense of "yoking" is applied to workers in the gospel. Can married couples be fellow workers in spreading the gospel of Christ? Of course! But that is not what marriage is. I've included a dictionary's definition of the words "bondage" and "bond", and all of the instances that "bond" is used in the scriptures to gain understanding of the meaning of what a bond is in scripture. Quote:
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I mentioned before my belief in the importance of seeing the "big picture". This is an example. The argument about whether a man and a woman are "joined" or "yoked" together is important. Is marriage a picture of the works of the law or is it a picture of the body of Christ being justified by grace through faith? George started this thread by posting a complete list of scriptures that contain the words "yoke" and "yoked". These words are never used by God to describe the marriage relationship. From the beginning marriage has been a similitude of The Mystery. Ephesians 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. Ephesians 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. Ephesians 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Marriage is not a similitude of justification by the works of the Law, but rather of justification by the faith of Jesus Christ. Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. I hope I have been clear about my understanding. I believe my position has been defended from scripture. If yours is different then I think you are incorrect but we are all free to make up our own minds. |
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Greenbear,
I do not have the chance to answer you back at the moment as I have piano lessons, but I hope to get at it tonight. But I wanted to ask that if you can use the dictionary to help make your point, am I allowed to do the same and get taken seriously on the Shepherd/Pastor thread? It appears that the dictionary over and over again is rejected by a number of people on here, so please play fair and not use it in this discussion. |
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Who ever said a dictionary can not be of some help? No one here has. I believe most of us stated that our understanding of a word's meaning used in scripture must be interpreted from scripture. Have I not done that? I think we are all capable of using our Bible software to look at all of the instances of "bondage" if we want to. No one wants to see them all on this post. |
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I've really go to go now |
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Yeah, I'm done with this, too.
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