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View Poll Results: Who can be saved during the tribulation
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Jews only (few in number) 0 0%
Jews only (few in number)
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Anyone (few in number) 5 35.71%
Anyone (few in number)
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Jews only (many in number) 1 7.14%
Jews only (many in number)
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Gentiles only (many in number) 0 0%
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Anyone (many in number) 8 57.14%
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:10 PM
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Default Who is saved during the tribulation?

I am curious about the following questions and would like as many as would to answer the poll and add comments.

The two-part question:
1. Are there any people saved during the tribulation?
2. If yes,then who exactly are they, and very specifically, how are they saved?

(Yes, I can count three questions, but bear with me here, I didn't have ixkatallagee in semitary.)
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:54 PM
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Anyone, many in number, even with having to "endure to the end" but still the narrow road.

It won't be easy, but I've learned not to underestimate the Holy Spirit.
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People who have rejected the Gospel prior to the rapture won't be able to get saved. Other than that, it seems everyone else is invited, although they will have to endure to the end and resist the mark of the beast.
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Old 05-11-2008, 05:03 PM
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Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. KJV
All who have repented.
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I don't see repentance anywhere in that verse? I mean, I am sure they did, but using the word repentance whenever a verse about salvation comes up is dangerous territory, and leads to one place.... LORDSHIP SALVATION.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:58 PM
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Anyone, many number. The book of Revelation shows that multitudes who kept the commandments of the Lord and the faith of Jesus are saved out of the Tribulation period. Matthew 25 also gives us some more details on how Gentiles are going to be saved - by taking care of the Lord's "brethren", the Jews.
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What about those at the Wailing Wall? Am I mistaking in thinking those saved there are the 144,000?
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I don't see repentance anywhere in that verse? I mean, I am sure they did, but using the word repentance whenever a verse about salvation comes up is dangerous territory, and leads to one place.... LORDSHIP SALVATION.
Are you kidding? That's the message of the Gospel!
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Mt 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mt 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mr 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Mr 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
Lu 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Lu 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Lu 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
Lu 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.
Lu 17:4 And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.
Ac 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Ac 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; (all KJV)
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I don't see repentance anywhere in that verse? I mean, I am sure they did, but using the word repentance whenever a verse about salvation comes up is dangerous territory, and leads to one place.... LORDSHIP SALVATION.
Luke, I believe repentance and faith are 2 sides of the same coin (cf. Acts 20:21).
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Luke, I believe repentance and faith are 2 sides of the same coin (cf. Acts 20:21).
His point is that there is more than one kind of 'repentance' in the Bible and if you get these confused you will have trouble. Every time the Bible talks about 'repentance' it is not always "from your sin". God repents many times (Gen 6, etc).

The 'repentance' that is preached by Paul in Acts 20 is not "from your sin". And when people add this 'repentance from your sin' to the Gospel of the Grace of God, things get sticky fast.
 

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