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Old 06-04-2009, 02:31 AM
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for those of you who believe that God has a special place in hell for one kind of sinner over another. I would have to say this.

The only sin that sends men to hell is the rejection of The Work of Christ for their salvation. for all sins were forgiven through his work of the cross.

All who reject him go to hell. no one is better or worse than any other.

Some believe Satan will be there torturing some people. Elizabeth Baxter in her Book Divine Revelation of Hell describes demons torturing men forever. But that is not Biblical. For Hell was created for Satan and his angles. they will be in as much torment as anyone else found in Hell.
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Old 06-04-2009, 07:57 AM
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All who reject him go to hell. no one is better or worse than any other.
That is not correct.
Mark 12:40 Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.
The Law teaches us that some sins are worse than others. I also disagree with your statement that "only one sin" sends men to hell. Rejecting Christ is rejecting the only way out of our just punishment. We deserve hell because of all of our sin.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Old 06-04-2009, 08:13 AM
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Receiving or rejecting God's salvation divides those in heaven or hell. Once in either place there are varying degrees of reward or judgment. Yes, I believe that a murderer of 60,000 innocents has a special place reserved.
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the Idea of there being many compartments or special places in hell is Mythological. you can find it in many mythologies except African. and Dante's Inferno or Divine Comedy has Nine such places.

I would agree to damnation being different. and that is different than condemnation to hell. but different damnations does not mean they have a special place in hell. it would or could mean that their torment could be different but not that they are put into a special place.

What sin or sins today condemns a man to hell?

if there are different places in hell for different sinners. Jesus only spoke of two but it was in reference to the waiting place for judgement of the dead.

Q. Why is the Bible so silent or vague on these places in hell?
A. It was created from Everlasting (eternity past) before the 24/7 TQ. Originally it was created for Satan and his angles. if it had been created during the 6 days of creation we would have more explanation and in site on Hell.

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That is not correct.
Mark 12:40 Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.
The Law teaches us that some sins are worse than others. I also disagree with your statement that "only one sin" sends men to hell. Rejecting Christ is rejecting the only way out of our just punishment. We deserve hell because of all of our sin.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ac 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

Dante' may not have known what he was talking about, but the Scriptures most certainly teach at two more levels of damnation, as you point out Brandon.

Grace and peace

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38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

38:5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

38:6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?

38:9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,

38:10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors,

38:11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?

38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know his place;

38:13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?

38:14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
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people are sentenced to prison everyday. some are sent for lesser crimes others for greater crimes. their sentences vary (their damnation's vary) but they are all incarcerated in the same prison (Hell). damnation is like the sentence a criminal receives for his crime but condemnation is the place all criminals go who are convicted of crimes.
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people are sentenced to prison everyday. some are sent for lesser crimes others for greater crimes. their sentences vary (their damnation's vary) but they are all incarcerated in the same prison (Hell). damnation is like the sentence a criminal receives for his crime but condemnation is the place all criminals go who are convicted of crimes.
Your analogy doesn't work since prisons are different. The prison on Kauai had out buildings where some prisoners lived and could garden and have visitors as well as an indoor prison with cells and stricter rules. Harder sentences were sent to other prisons with higher security. There is solitary confinement within prisons as well as death row etc.

In addition a stay at that prison in Arizona where they work the chain gang is different than say the same thing in California. So prison to prison there are differences and even within the same prison the stay and what you are allowed to do varies from person to person.

To say nothing of how you are treated inside by those also incarcerated depending on the crime.
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Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

1Ti 5:11 But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry;
1Ti 5:12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.

The same damnation that you would get for these sins. It definitely isn't eternal damnation in hell, and more than likely is the chastening of the Lord since that it what you will recieve for not judging yourself and not discerning the Lord's body. Unless you aren't saved, then you are going to hell already because you aren't cleansed from the blood, and taking the Lord's supper without being saved wouldn't make you go to hell any more than that.

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Kevin had this to say about Damnation and Condemnation.

It is interesting that Christians can have damnation and not condemnation.

Brandon gave this reply. it would seem in context it is only Israelite's.

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That is not correct.
Mark 12:40 Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.
The Law teaches us that some sins are worse than others. I also disagree with your statement that "only one sin" sends men to hell. Rejecting Christ is rejecting the only way out of our just punishment. We deserve hell because of all of our sin.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
so how do we apply Judge yourself in context of 1Cor 11. here in this thread we can discuss the differences of Damnation and condemnation instead of starting a new thread. seeing hell is either the outcome for some and not for Christians.

Damnations still seem to be like certain charges that hold differing penalties however all go to the same place to pay the price some longer some shorter (if it were a earthly prison) so maybe there are differing levels of punishment or it could be that each mans conscience will be the convicting torment throughout eternity.
 

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