[Luke]

So am I

I am basically just drifting through life, without purpose or direction. I feel as though God is through with me. I missed my opportunities, and the desires of my heart have perished. MY heart is hard. I am unloving, unkind, jealous and angry at lots of people, and I don't want to be.

I get angry at my pastor very easily, but I don't go and tell him. I get angry at my father in law very easily, but I don't go and tell him. The problem is not with them, it's with me.

I know I should win souls, or try to, but honestly, it seems as though I don't care all that much. I'm ungrateful to God. Sometimes I think I don't even believe, or care that He died for me.

[Hayseed]

Luke at 27years old God is hardly through with you.
Maybe you are doubting your salvation because you think if your'e saved you wouldn't be unloving,unkind,jealous,angry at your Pastor or father in law.But a saved man is capable of all this and more,we have two natures that war against each other.

Is there a specific reason(s) for your inward anger toward your father in law?
Is he usurping your position as head of your house maybe?
Is your Pastor expecting too much of you as a young man,trying to guilt you to do more?
Have you burnt out from doing too much maybe?

Try not to base your salvation on what you feel,think or do and then doubt you are saved.You are saved by what Jesus has done,He paid the price and now you are on a journey of working out your salvation and it maybe you are under too much outside pressures at the moment to feel or understand His direction for you.

Saved people do doubt and wonder about themselves and God...but at the end of the day "we know too much" we have learnt too much about God and have experienced His tender ways as well as His rebukes to not trust Him.

Hayseed
PS I have a married 27 year old son and he has felt far away from God at times too,as has my married 25 and 22 year old sons,their wives,Dad and me at times at 63 and 54.

[Kiwi Christian]

Originally Posted by Luke

So am I

I am basically just drifting through life, without purpose or direction. I feel as though God is through with me. I missed my opportunities, and the desires of my heart have perished. MY heart is hard. I am unloving, unkind, jealous and angry at lots of people, and I don't want to be.

I get angry at my pastor very easily, but I don't go and tell him. I get angry at my father in law very easily, but I don't go and tell him. The problem is not with them, it's with me.

I know I should win souls, or try to, but honestly, it seems as though I don't care all that much. I'm ungrateful to God. Sometimes I think I don't even believe, or care that He died for me.

Brother, don't ever draw any conclusions based on what you feel or what you think, ever! Always, and again, always, base your conclusions on what God said.

You said "I feel as though God is through with me."
God said "I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee."

You said "Sometimes I think I don't even believe."
God said "If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself."

Let God be true brother, let God be true.

It's saddening to read of your frame of mind Luke, I pray God will revive your heart soon and guide your feet into the way of peace.

[Hayseed]

Originally Posted by Kiwi Christian

You said "Sometimes I think I don't even believe."
God said "If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself."

Let God be true brother, let God be true.

I have clung to that promise for myself and others I care about.

[needingtruth]

I had this same conversation with a friend last night. I just started looking at this forum today so it's kind of odd that I spotted this. I was struggling for 2 weeks or more with the same feelings your going through. You can't let doubts get you down. I think some people can just believe and not have serious doubts. It's a gift. People like you and me struggle because we're the type of people that have to find answers to all our questions and understand all the little things and forget about the main reason we're saved. Jesus Christ. Don't get hung up on little things. Keep your focus on the Lord and stay in his word. As for you mentioning Calvinism and the internet, I can only say that you need to stay away from Internet teachers. Not all are bad, but it's very easy to fall into traps setup by Satan. Just because a website say's it christian doesn't mean that Satan isn't behind it(this is part of my problem), and it can cause you to have serious doubts. Stay in your bible, stay on this forum and go to baptist1611.com as well. If you or anyone else would like to email me for some support and vice versa my email is johngibbons89@yahoo.com

[Winman]

I know I should win souls, or try to, but honestly, it seems as though I don't care all that much. I'm ungrateful to God. Sometimes I think I don't even believe, or care that He died for me.

Your statement reminds me of a good sermon I heard once. The pastor said when he was in college that one of his friends came to him and asked to borrow money, and promised he would pay him back the very next week. He was happy to help his buddy and gave him the money.

Next week came around and he couldn't find his friend anywhere. Then on several occasions he saw his friend at school, but his friend took off in the other direction. This went on for several weeks.

Finally, he saw his friend and cornered him. He asked why he was obviously avoiding him. His friend responded that he just knew he was very angry at him for breaking his promise of repaying the money in one week. As each day went by, he became more convinced that his friend was becoming more angry and unhappy with him. He even decided he didn't care, he didn't want him for a friend anyway, and did his best to avoid him.

He slapped his buddy on the back and told him they would always be friends. He realized his friend probably didn't have the money, but that would never affect their friendship. He could repay when he could, if he couldn't, that would be OK too. He loved his friend.


And that is how we are with God sometimes. We get caught up in sin and think God is very angry at us. We become so sure God wants nothing to do with us that we convince ourselves we don't even care, and that we want nothing to do with God.

But God still loves us. Sure, he is unhappy about our sin, but he is waiting for us to come back to him and restore fellowship.

If you sinned (and we all have MANY times), get down on your knees and tell the Lord you are sorry. Start over right then and there and do your best to obey God. He is right there waiting for you to return to him.

[chette777]

Amen Peopleoftheway Amen

[peopleoftheway]

Originally Posted by Luke

So am I

I am basically just drifting through life, without purpose or direction. I feel as though God is through with me. I missed my opportunities, and the desires of my heart have perished. MY heart is hard. I am unloving, unkind, jealous and angry at lots of people, and I don't want to be.

I get angry at my pastor very easily, but I don't go and tell him. I get angry at my father in law very easily, but I don't go and tell him. The problem is not with them, it's with me.

I know I should win souls, or try to, but honestly, it seems as though I don't care all that much. I'm ungrateful to God. Sometimes I think I don't even believe, or care that He died for me.

Brother if God was through with you, you would be dead. Your 27! God will humble you and bless you with plenty of opportunities God Sparing us!
Have you ever sat down and thought that God is "testing" YOU. I have felt exactly the same way, gotten angry at pastors and people for their treatment of Gods word and their sheer unbelief. I have felt hard hearted and unloving at times.
In these last days, and Brother we ARE in the last days there is a spirit of apostasy that is setting into peoples hearts, hardening them to the truth causing Gods people to doubt and once that seed of doubt is planted the devil is going to try his hardest to water it!

Get back up, adjust that armour into the right place, take your sword in your hand and Fight back!

Proverbs 24:16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.

Originally Posted by Luke

So am I

I am basically just drifting through life, without purpose or direction. I feel as though God is through with me. I missed my opportunities, and the desires of my heart have perished. MY heart is hard. I am unloving, unkind, jealous and angry at lots of people, and I don't want to be.

I get angry at my pastor very easily, but I don't go and tell him. I get angry at my father in law very easily, but I don't go and tell him. The problem is not with them, it's with me.

I know I should win souls, or try to, but honestly, it seems as though I don't care all that much. I'm ungrateful to God. Sometimes I think I don't even believe, or care that He died for me.

You're not alone, any believer can get his eyes on the world and off of Christ and become ungrateful and heart-hearted.

Hey Luke, there are over fifteen "I's in that post...
My old Pastor used to say maybe we need to focus on others more and less on ourselves. Just food for thought brother... praying for you.

"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." Heb. 12:2