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Old 07-06-2009, 09:22 AM
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I am here to point out error wherever I find it. I am here to make posters and readers think.
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1. Error is present, and can be found in the promotion of the King James Bible.
2. Various posters are not thinking properly.
3. Various posters have failed to get readers to think properly.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:31 AM
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It seems that Will Kinney is 'off limits' and above reproach in all matters.
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:35 AM
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Are you implying this is an inerrant message board on the basis that it promotes the KJB?
It is clearly not an error to support and promote the KJB. To deny the correctness of the word "oath's" in Matthew 14:9 and Mark 6:26 is to diminish the jots and tittles of Scripture.

"Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you." (Deuteronomy 4:2).

The apostrophe must stand between the "h" and the "s" of the word "oath's"!

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." (Matthew 5:18).
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:54 AM
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It is clearly not an error to support and promote the KJB. To deny the correctness of the word "oath's" in Matthew 14:9 and Mark 6:26 is to diminish the jots and tittles of Scripture. ...
I concur that it is NOT an error to support the KJB. Why do you try to make it sound like I said differently?

My 1611 KJB says "oaths". My KJB is not wrong!
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:59 AM
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I concur that it is NOT an error to support the KJB. Why do you try to make it sound like I said differently?

My 1611 KJB says "oaths". My KJB is not wrong!
No, the KJB is not wrong. You are wrong to claim that "oath's" is wrong.

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However, I think you are wrong about the word's number; it is plural, not singular.
Oath's is singular.

Oaths or oaths' is plural.

Since the King James Bible in all proper editions today, most especially the Pure Cambridge Edition, reads "oath's", then you are rejecting the KJB as it stands today.

What you are doing is reading your interpretation into the unstandardised grammar of 1611, when many godly men, proper editors, and KJBO believers today hold that "oath's" would have been there in 1611 HAD APOSTROPHES BEEN USED IN THOSE DAYS!
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:04 AM
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It seems that Will Kinney is 'off limits' and above reproach in all matters... Are you implying this is an inerrant message board on the basis that it promotes the KJB?
No brother, it's not that we think Will is perfect, or that this is an "inerrant message board," ...trust me we all have our faults and we even slap EACH OTHER around from time to time. But looking at several of your recent posts it seems you are coming off as very "critical" for a new member, so you might want to settle down a little and get the "lay of the land" so to speak. Please understand, we get a lot of "smart alecks" and deceivers here which tend to be dealt with rather harshly. Look; Bro. Kinney is doing HIS best to present the case for the KJV, it seems you are doing YOUR best to detract from that. That won't fly here, I assure you. Chill out, take a deep breath and think about it before you proceed brother.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:30 AM
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... Chill out, take a deep breath and think about it before you proceed brother.
Thank you for your advice, Bro. Parrish. You have been very kind.
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Old 07-06-2009, 11:46 AM
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Hi Critical. From what I know of this forum the vast majority of us are all Bible believers. That is, we all believe that the King James Bible is the only complete, pure, perfect, inspired and 100% true Holy Bible and Standard by which all other versions and translations are to be measured and compared.

We do not hold up any one man or group of men as being our final authority. We are all sinners saved by the grace of God through the redeeming blood of the Lamb of God - our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Not all of us here are in agreement on several issues or doctrines, but what unites us is a common faith in our Lord and Redeemer and a belief that the King James Bible IS the true and pure words of God.

So, now for the third time, I again will post my initial question to you, which so far you keep avoiding. I know that I and probably several others here would really like to hear what you say about this central issue. In case your critical thinking skills have missed it (as you did the Greek footnote about kaiper estin being the Received text reading) here it is again.



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But let this be sufficient for now: I think the KJV which exists right now is the complete, inspired and 100% true Holy Bible!
Forgive me if I am assuming something that is not true, but as a result of discussions on many other forums and with lots of different Christians, I have often found that people cloak what they really believe by using ambiguous or unclear phrases. If you really think the King James Bible IS the complete, inspired and 100% true Holy Bible, then are you equally prepared to state the only logical alternative in regard to versions like the NASB, NIV, RSV, ESV, NKJV, Holman Standard, etc? Because these multi-choice versions differ from the 100% true KJB by literally thousand of words omitted (anywhere from 17 to 45 entire verses in the N.T. alone) and often reject the Hebrew texts and have completely different meanings in hundreds of verses, are you then willing to take the stand that these other versions are NOT the complete, inspired and 100% Holy Bible?

This is not a rhetorical question. I really would like for you to give us a straight up and honest answer to it.

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Old 07-07-2009, 08:52 AM
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Hi Critical. From what I know of this forum the vast majority of us are all Bible believers. That is, we all believe that the King James Bible is the only complete, pure, perfect, inspired and 100% true Holy Bible and Standard by which all other versions and translations are to be measured and compared.

We do not hold up any one man or group of men as being our final authority. We are all sinners saved by the grace of God through the redeeming blood of the Lamb of God - our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

Not all of us here are in agreement on several issues or doctrines, but what unites us is a common faith in our Lord and Redeemer and a belief that the King James Bible IS the true and pure words of God. ...
Amen, Amen, and Amen!
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... So, now for the third time, I again will post my initial question to you, which so far you keep avoiding. ...
It really doesn't matter how many times you've asked; you could have asked 100 times while I busy or away. I was never "avoiding" the question, but because of your impatience I have been delaying my answer.

Before I give my answer, allow me to make a prediction: I think you'll be surprised, but because of your pride you will be unsatisfied with my answer. If my conviction is precisely the same as yours, I think you'll just call me a 'lier' (as you have virtually already done); if my answer is one tittle different than your conviction, I think you will just label me a 'heretic'. Already from my brief sharing here, my Christian education has been slandered and my testimony of salvation dismissed. I have nothing to gain by giving an answer. Yet I will answer.
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... In case your critical thinking skills have missed it (as you did the Greek footnote about kaiper estin being the Received text reading) here it is again. ...
Critical thinking skills have nothing to do with avoiding honest mistakes. Since you keep bringing up the mistake I made, I must not have sufficiently apologized yet. So again, I am sorry; I was wrong there.
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:56 AM
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Hi Critical. And the answer you haven't been avoiding was.........?

Did I miss it? Oh wait. You're working on it, right? Golly, you've got me sitting on pins and needles. By the way, I promise I will not call you a lier. Instead I will spell the word correctly if it is called for. So, go ahead and surprise us all. What DO you believe about "the Bible"?

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