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Old 07-15-2009, 07:38 PM
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Lordship salvation, defined by one who labels it heresy, is "the view that for salvation a person must trust Jesus Christ as his Savior from sin and must also commit himself to Christ as Lord of his life, submitting to His sovereign authority." This seems to be what I gather from your posts.

To me it is astonishing that anyone would characterize that truth as unbiblical or heretical. The implication is that acknowledging Christ's lordship is a human work. That mistaken notation is backed by volumes of literature that speaks of people "making Jesus Christ Lord of their lives."

We do not "make" Christ Lord: He is Lord! Those who will not receive Him as Lord are guilty of rejecting Him. "Faith" that rejects His sovereign authority is really unbelief. Conversely, acknowledging His lordship is no more a human work than repentance.

llTim 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

or faith itself
Eph 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

In fact surrender to Christ is an important aspect of divinely produced saving faith, not something added to faith.

We really should be looking at it from the bible and not what is quoted by Tara Tourangeau, and other men whoever they are.
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:00 AM
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We really should be looking at it from the bible and not what is quoted by...
Augustine, John Calvin, John Bunyan, Charles Spurgeon, John McAurthur, John Piper, James White, RC Sproul, Paul Washer?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

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