[Jassy]

Originally Posted by Amanda S.

Sisters,



It's not that it would be too hard for God.

But considering what the Bible has to say, if anything about a certain topic. We should do that with any decision we make. While we may have our liberty as Christians to do as we please in this matter, it is a good thing to compare Scripture with Scripture. The Bible is not completely silent on this matter...The example is there. You will not find a positive Scripture verse in regards to a body being burned.

As Wingwiper stated it is a stumbling block for a lot of Christians. For me that is also a good reason to avoid cremation. Perhaps it is ok to cremate, but I feel we should use our Christian liberty to not be a stumbling block to a weaker brother.

So, then, according to the Bible, you believe that the Lord will not resurrect those who have gone against what you feel is His teaching from the Bible regarding burial? He will REJECT those people as not doing His clear will?

Mind you, I'm not planning on being cremated myself. Burial is very expensive these days though. My own parents pre-purchased their burial plans. They'd purchased burial space in a masoleum - which is rather like a tomb, as Christ was buried. My father died last March, so he was buried in the masoleum (I hope I'm spelling that right!). My parents are Catholic though - so I don't know what Catholics teach about that.

What should people do if they cannot afford burial expenses?

Jassy

[Amanda S.]

So, then, according to the Bible, you believe that the Lord will not resurrect those who have gone against what you feel is His teaching from the Bible regarding burial? He will REJECT those people as not doing His clear will?

What!? Please quote me where I said that.

What should people do if they cannot afford burial expenses?

Frankly I don't care what they would do. I am trying to give WingWiper things to consider in his search for "the" answer...if there is one.

I said and I quote "for me" I would not choose cremation.

[Amanda S.]

On further reflection there is more here that was erroneous:

you believe that the Lord will not resurrect those

Never was said.

His teaching from the Bible regarding burial?

I said there was no teaching specifically, just example.

He will REJECT those people

Certainly never said that.

His clear will?

Nope, not a clear will. Don't think I said that either. There IS a clear example. But not a clear will or commandment.

[wingwiper]

Frankly I don't care what they would do. I am trying to give WingWiper things to consider in his search for "the" answer...if there is one.

I said and I quote "for me" I would not choose cremation.[/QUOTE]

Well said................Thanks.

Thank everyone so far for their posts............good stuff. You guys make some good points............although I read 1 or 2 where maybe my original post is not understood or folk are reading me the wrong way. Let me make sure that I clarify if I misled anyone that I am looking for wisdom and discourse on the subject of cremation. I'm a disabled vet in a wheelchair, when this old body gives out.............help yo self, I'm out of here. Worm food or dust...............I don't care.

I am not trying to pull Old Testament or Old Covenant doctrine, scripture to this dispensation........... not looking backwards if you will. I am fully aware of 2 Tim. 2:15 as many of you pointed out and well taken (I'm in the right place!) and know when we read--- we are to be aware as to who is speaking and to whom is being spoken to. I was only offering as someone mentioned some shadows from the Old Testament but never said that it was or is Pauline Epistle. I offered only examples.

Just looking to see if anyone knew direct scripture for yea or nea on the subject. They're not questioning their salvation or eternal security..............., but more on is there a scripture directly on the subject. Yes...............I agree that it does not matter because we already have the victory, shadows we learn by, the law is our schoolmaster, etc.

I would suggest maybe that the normal burial today vs. Jewish burial I referenced to (Old Testament) is just as heathen as cremation due to the fact we duplicate (in part) the Egyptians in regards to embalming, preserving the body into the afterlife. I'm sure there is someone that would disagree with that, but there's a big difference in wrapping a body in linen, putting it in the ground vs the process of burial today. Embalmed and preserved for what............? I'm sure the environmentalists or maybe someone here would argue that point.

[Jassy]

Originally Posted by Amanda S.

What!? Please quote me where I said that.




Frankly I don't care what they would do. I am trying to give WingWiper things to consider in his search for "the" answer...if there is one.

I said and I quote "for me" I would not choose cremation.

Sister Amanda,

I apologize to you. I spoke very rashly, without thinking and zeroed in on one thing. It wasn't at all what you had intended or meant. Doing that was very out-of-character for me, and I think that most people here that know me would realize that was not the way that I have consistently responded here.

I seemed to be having a bad day! I'm sorry that I didn't think more and prayerfully contemplate before I responded.

That is why I have taken a break yesterday from posting.

Jassy

[Diligent]

Originally Posted by Jassy

So, then, according to the Bible, you believe that the Lord will not resurrect those who have gone against what you feel is His teaching from the Bible regarding burial? He will REJECT those people as not doing His clear will?

I didn't see anyone claim anything like that. I don't understand what was said that would lead you to that conclusion.

The Bible only shows God's people being buried. We look forward to having our bodies resurrected and glorified. Of course God can put all the right parts together even if my body is vaporized in a nuclear explosion, but because I trust in the promise of resurrection, I want my body buried in honor and recognition of the work God intends to do, not burned to ashes as if my body has no future use.

I don't see any Scriptures indicating it is a sin to have your body cremated, so there's nothing to be dogmatic about here either way.

[PaulB]

If we are talking about a body that is to be buried in an honourable way – then what about the concubine, the reformers and those who’s bodies were never found or lost at sea?

Judges 19:29 “And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.”

I personally don’t think that our burial is all that important as there are some that haven’t even been buried such as William Tyndale and Jon Huss because of their faith.

Rv.20:13 “And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.”

1 Cor 15 makes it clear that whatever the case – V42 “So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:”

To be sown in corruption means sown into death not necessarily in a tomb. Whether we are burned, buried or lost at sea we will all be raised up on the last day when that trumpet will sound its blast!

God bless

PaulB

[wingwiper]

Originally Posted by PaulB

If we are talking about a body that is to be buried in an honourable way – then what about the concubine, the reformers and those who’s bodies were never found or lost at sea?

Judges 19:29 “And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.”

I personally don’t think that our burial is all that important as there are some that haven’t even been buried such as William Tyndale and Jon Huss because of their faith.

Rv.20:13 “And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.”

1 Cor 15 makes it clear that whatever the case – V42 “So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:”

To be sown in corruption means sown into death not necessarily in a tomb. Whether we are burned, buried or lost at sea we will all be raised up on the last day when that trumpet will sound its blast!

God bless

PaulB

I understand your point, however as you noted and someone else characterized 9/11............the question was conveyed in a way that a person was still in control of what happened to their remains as to bury or cremate.

People lost at sea or at 9/11 did not have that choice.