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Old 07-14-2009, 08:24 PM
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actually Paul only restated 9 of the ten commandments. The one he didn't restate for us is Sabbath observance. read the way Paul restates the 9 commandments as not to make them required law but spiritually applicable.

LarryB, the gospel preached to Abraham in the OT was not the Gospel of Grace, but it was a gospel. reread Genesis 12, 15, 18 and you will see the gospel there was "the nations would be blessed through his seed". but no where is it ever said faith alone in Christ for the forgiveness of sins. there are many gospels (good news) but only one gospel of grace and only found in the new testament.

Paul reminds us in Galatians That it is Jesus of the seed of Abraham in which all nations would be blessed. Paul like us today is looking back with the info he has at hand. just as we have a tendency to do. we need to be careful not to impose on the OT something that is not there just as Paul did. Paul did not impose the Gospel of Grace he only pointed out the fulfilling of the blessing of all nations is through Jesus Christ.

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Old 07-14-2009, 08:50 PM
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actually Paul only restated 9 of the ten commandments. The one he didn't restate for us is Sabbath observance. read the way Paul restates the 9 commandments as not to make them required law but spiritually applicable.
The Scriptures never tell us that only repeated moral commands are still in force...that's pure presumption.
And if that was the case, since the prohibition against beastiality is not made in the NT your logic would lead us to think that it was no longer against God's moral commands.


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LarryB, the gospel preached to Abraham in the OT was not the Gospel of Grace, but it was a gospel. reread Genesis 12, 15, 18 and you will see the gospel there was "the nations would be blessed through his seed". but no where is it ever said faith alone in Christ for the forgiveness of sins. there are many gospels (good news) but only one gospel of grace and only found in the new testament.
The unity of both the OT and NT covenant is clearly taught in Scripture…
  • Its promise was the same (Ex 19:4-6 cf 1Pet 2:5,9; Jer 31:33cf 2Cor 6:16)
  • Its condition was the same – faith (Gen 15:6 cf Rom 4:3)
  • The object of this faith was the same – Christ (John 8:56; Acts 2:25-32; Heb 4:2)
This is why Christians are made partakers of the blessing of Abraham (Gal 3:8,9,14)

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Old 07-14-2009, 11:04 PM
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sounds like covenant theology.

Study more on dispensationalism and search out the three things you mentioned in the forum threads. all have been addressed before.

but I want you to know that 1) we (the body of Christ) have been given no earthly promises, 2) while faith is in all dispensation designs for receiving God's grace, certain works were needed in order to prove their faith was genuine in the OT. and 3) Abraham did not have, nor did any other old testament saint have Jesus as the object of their faith.
 


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