[tonybones2112]

Originally Posted by Luke

Is that the same Michael Pearl who teaches a selective form of sinless perfection?

In one of his tracts about pornography, he claims that any man that struggles with it or gives in to it is unsaved, without a doubt...

I never heard of this person, maybe because I know him only through his other alias, "Holy Ghost of God"?

I wonder how he knows or what Scripture he uses to back his private interpretaion, and wonder what 2 x 4 beams he has in his own eyes?

Brother, I seem to have read somewhere that we are sinful creatures, whose sins have not been imputed to us because our faith is counted for righteousness?

Any idea where I might have gotten that?

Grace and peace brother,. throw all these little holy ghosts into Gehenna and stick with your Bible. It'll never lie to you or mislead you, these false teachers will.

Tony

[CKG]

Originally Posted by tonybones2112

I never heard of this person, maybe because I know him only through his other alias, "Holy Ghost of God"?

I wonder how he knows or what Scripture he uses to back his private interpretaion, and wonder what 2 x 4 beams he has in his own eyes?

Brother, I seem to have read somewhere that we are sinful creatures, whose sins have not been imputed to us because our faith is counted for righteousness?

Any idea where I might have gotten that?

Grace and peace brother,. throw all these little holy ghosts into Gehenna and stick with your Bible. It'll never lie to you or mislead you, these false teachers will.

Tony

[Luke]

Tony means to say that because of Pearls stance on declaring people saved/unsaved based on works, he has made himself out to be the Holy Ghost...

[CKG]

Originally Posted by Luke

Tony means to say that because of Pearls stance on declaring people saved/unsaved based on works, he has made himself out to be the Holy Ghost...

I respect Tony for his many insightful posts, but I know for a fact that Pearl teaches salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ plus nothing else, no works. Plus he's KJV only and dispensational in his teaching. Tony bases his opinion on one snippet of information. I base what I know on having read Pearl's commentary on Romans 1-8 and listening to his Bible studies on Matthew, John, Romans, Ephesians, Colossians, and Hebrews.

Anyway, not to get the thread off track, Pearl's book "Eight Kingdoms" is a must read/study for anyone seeking to learn the difference between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven. Read it along with Ruckman's "Kingdom of God versus the Kingdom of Heaven" and you're all set.

[Luke]

But how do you explain his position that a man who is struggling with sin is unsaved?

I would go and find the quote, except it would probably cause me great anguish to read it again at this time.

[CKG]

Originally Posted by Luke

But how do you explain his position that a man who is struggling with sin is unsaved?

I would go and find the quote, except it would probably cause me great anguish to read it again at this time.

I will look and see if I have the pamphlet and see what it says and if he says that in the pamphlet then he is in error there. But...let me repeat myself, I have read his Romans 1-8 commentary and listened to his Bible studies on Matthew, John, Romans, 1 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Colossians, and Hebrews and he never says anything resembling that. He teaches salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and that when you believe the gospel message you are sealed unto the day of redemption. I've listened to his series on Galatians recently and he goes through great pains to verse by verse expound those passages teaching we can't be saved or stay saved by our works. Once we believe the gospel, Jesus saves us and keeps us saved.

I kind of understand where you're coming from since you have struggled with porn in the past. Again when Pearl makes those harsh statements he's thinking about hardened criminals he sees in his prison ministry. As I've said before there are a lot of guys I've learned from (Pearl, Ruckman...etc) but I've never come across anyone that I agreed with everything they say. You're bothered by a statement in that one pamphlet and you shouldn't be. I believe God puts these men in our path to help guide us into the truths of His Word, but they (we) are just men. Ultimately we must all search the scriptures for ourselves. Brother, your security is in Christ and not any man, not even good men!

[tonybones2112]

Originally Posted by Luke

Tony means to say that because of Pearls stance on declaring people saved/unsaved based on works, he has made himself out to be the Holy Ghost...

Luke, that's exactly what I said brother and exactly what I meant. He may be good, godly, dedicated, conservative, fundamentalist, saved by the blood, and unlearned in free Grace, no matter how many websites he may run or books he has publ;shed or what his reputation is. I want you to think on these questions:

1. How many sins did it take to get Adam and Eve thrown out of the Garden?
2. How many sins does it take to throw a person into hell?
3. Sin is transgression of what?
4. According to James how many times does it take breaking the "what" of question 3 does it take to violate all of it?
5. What is the difference between being hooked on porn and lighting your stove to cook a meal between 6 pm Friday and 6 pm Saturday, Jerusalem time?

Brother, you got to watch out for these little Christian immans, there is a Christian Taliban and there is a Christian Talmud. Stick with your Bible. Your sins affect your Chriostian walk, they have not been imputed to you. You are not the only person who struggles daily with the flesh, it goes with the territory.

I'll email you in the next day or two with some information you might find helpful.

Grace and peace my brother.

Tony

[Luke]

The key to victory over any sin is reading Romans 6-8 over and over again, until you see your life hid in Christ, and the victory already won. There is no process to recovery. No 12 steps. It's a one step. Die to self and Claim the victory that Jesus Christ already won