[tonybones2112]

Originally Posted by biblereader

It is so good to hear people say the NIV is wrong, and bad, and to FINALLY hear people say CS Lewis is bad. What do you think about the Chronicles of Narnia? That's a mess! Unbelievable how many people think that's Christian.
And, what REALLY amazes me, is, how many so called Christians have NO problem with the damnable Harry Potter books and movies!
Where is the discernment? Where is the rebuking, and reproof?

Sister, I understand what you are saying but the difference in some of the books you name here is that if a person claims a given work is "Christian" and it's not, it needs to be dealt with. Potter, Tolkien, and other works must be recognized as just the works of men. What I see as damaging is this "separatist" doctrine many Christians have in that they first draw off so far from the world that they appear and act as if they are aliens from a UFO. The only time they venture out is to complain about some book or movie the world has made. When I was a child I remember preachers going on and on and on and on about how "evil" The Flinstones, Warner Bro. Cartoons, and Quick Draw McGraw was. As I've tried to advise Luke and Chris, we need to find a center in ourselves and recognize we are flesh and a Spirit, that do not have any mutual interaction with each other. We need to venture out of our monasteries and carry out our commission for today, the real "great" commission in that we are ministers of the reconciliation to wit, God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself and be ambassadors for Christ, beginning with our next door neighbor.

We need to not worry about what the world is doing now but tell humanity what Jesus Christ has already done.

The height of the street ministry I was involved in was in 1987-89. One night we had a group of Pentecostals come out, gather in a circle, whoop and blab gibberish, then they went to their cars and left. I stopped one woman what she was doing. She said they just "named and claimed" the Street "for Jesus". I said, then what are we doing here still? Blank stare. I asked her to stand still for 60 seconds. When she did, I pointed to 7 bars and 3 adult books stores and asked her, if it's named and claimed, why are they still open and people still going in and out? Blank stare. She left without a word.

No one wants to go where Christ is not named and preach the gospel of His grace. But they will complain about Madonna.

Another night I walked up the street to a place called NEON MOVIES. They were playing The Last Temptation Of Christ. The Complainers were outside with their signs and guitars and I didn't see a Bible or tract among them. I stood in the gutter till they finished singing with this huge KJV in my hand. One guy asked me if I wanted to join in the protest and come put my Bible over on the table with the guitar cases. I merely said that when they are done with this foolishness, come justify the Blood shed for them and come up the street and do some real work.

One young man followed me back. The rest stood, blank stares.

I am not a nice person.

His name was Mark, he was a United Methodist, and he saw us witnessing and he got his noodle cooked that night. He went nuts. I thought he was gonna climb on a trashcan and start preaching. I never saw a child on a sugar-high get that manic. I rarely saw a Christian witness for Jesus Christ that fevently either. He parked himself in front of a bar and tracted everyone going in. I walked across the street and looked inside, the floor was carpeted with our tracts. He and I went in, picked them all up, and gave them out again. His words will not return unto Him void.

That was the night they called the cops on us(again). I told the cop to hit the road, First Ammendment, go catch a crook.

I am not a nice person.

Sister, I understand your feelings. Don't be concerned about what JK Rowling(Potter) writes. be concerned with what God has already wrote.
We're not theater and book critics, we're ambassadors for Christ.

The deadliest weapon in the world is not a Marine and his rifle, the deadliest weapon in the world is a Christian with a Bible.

Grace and peace sister

Tony

[Jassy]

Wonderfully powerful words, Tony!! AMEN brother!

[Billie]

Bible Reader As you can see and read from the many Welcome! This is trully one of the most KJB Bible believing Forums around...its members are sincere,honest, KJB believers. If you haven't looked around yet, please go into the Bible Studies/Doctrine sections...and try to read the 'sticky's". There is a wealth of studies over there
I look forward to reading your posts and getting to fellowship with you.

[biblereader]

Originally Posted by Billie

Bible Reader As you can see and read from the many Welcome! This is trully one of the most KJB Bible believing Forums around...its members are sincere,honest, KJB believers. If you haven't looked around yet, please go into the Bible Studies/Doctrine sections...and try to read the 'sticky's". There is a wealth of studies over there
I look forward to reading your posts and getting to fellowship with you.

I look forward to reading your posts, too, and to getting to know the members in here.
HOW, btw, do I look up various other people's posts?

[biblereader]

Originally Posted by Jassy

Wonderfully powerful words, Tony!! AMEN brother!

Oh, you LIKE all that, eh, Jassy?

[biblereader]

Well then, brother bones, you would appreciate me, as I go EVERY day, almost, and pass out tracts.
Some CHRISTIANS, I'm saying, not lost people, some who claim to be Christians, should stop supporting the likes of Hollywood, ungodly authors,
sinful playthings, et al.
I don't come to lost people and tell them they are on the way to Hell, no, Tony. I do tell Christians to repent, to get OUT of the world, before it's too late! What comes to mind is the parable of the wise and foolish virgins.
All were virgins, all had lamps, all were waiting for the bridegroom.
Only half of them got into heaven, though. The rest were left outside, to burn in torments forever.
Please don't judge me before you know me, fully. I think you and I have a lot in common. I also understand what YOU are saying, and believe me, it's frustrating to show the love of Jesus while devilish pentecostals are gibber jabbering, and either scaring lost people, or making them laugh.
The lost have got to be dealt with kindly, and with love.
I agree.
The Christians, though, who promote worldly filth, need to be called out front and center, and told what Jesus says about loving the world. The love of the Father is not in them, if they love the world, and promote the ungodly witchcraft and doctrines of demons that are flooding the church today.

Originally Posted by tonybones2112

Sister, I understand what you are saying but the difference in some of the books you name here is that if a person claims a given work is "Christian" and it's not, it needs to be dealt with. Potter, Tolkien, and other works must be recognized as just the works of men. What I see as damaging is this "separatist" doctrine many Christians have in that they first draw off so far from the world that they appear and act as if they are aliens from a UFO. The only time they venture out is to complain about some book or movie the world has made. When I was a child I remember preachers going on and on and on and on about how "evil" The Flinstones, Warner Bro. Cartoons, and Quick Draw McGraw was. As I've tried to advise Luke and Chris, we need to find a center in ourselves and recognize we are flesh and a Spirit, that do not have any mutual interaction with each other. We need to venture out of our monasteries and carry out our commission for today, the real "great" commission in that we are ministers of the reconciliation to wit, God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself and be ambassadors for Christ, beginning with our next door neighbor.

We need to not worry about what the world is doing now but tell humanity what Jesus Christ has already done.

The height of the street ministry I was involved in was in 1987-89. One night we had a group of Pentecostals come out, gather in a circle, whoop and blab gibberish, then they went to their cars and left. I stopped one woman what she was doing. She said they just "named and claimed" the Street "for Jesus". I said, then what are we doing here still? Blank stare. I asked her to stand still for 60 seconds. When she did, I pointed to 7 bars and 3 adult books stores and asked her, if it's named and claimed, why are they still open and people still going in and out? Blank stare. She left without a word.

No one wants to go where Christ is not named and preach the gospel of His grace. But they will complain about Madonna.

Another night I walked up the street to a place called NEON MOVIES. They were playing The Last Temptation Of Christ. The Complainers were outside with their signs and guitars and I didn't see a Bible or tract among them. I stood in the gutter till they finished singing with this huge KJV in my hand. One guy asked me if I wanted to join in the protest and come put my Bible over on the table with the guitar cases. I merely said that when they are done with this foolishness, come justify the Blood shed for them and come up the street and do some real work.

One young man followed me back. The rest stood, blank stares.

I am not a nice person.

His name was Mark, he was a United Methodist, and he saw us witnessing and he got his noodle cooked that night. He went nuts. I thought he was gonna climb on a trashcan and start preaching. I never saw a child on a sugar-high get that manic. I rarely saw a Christian witness for Jesus Christ that fevently either. He parked himself in front of a bar and tracted everyone going in. I walked across the street and looked inside, the floor was carpeted with our tracts. He and I went in, picked them all up, and gave them out again. His words will not return unto Him void.

That was the night they called the cops on us(again). I told the cop to hit the road, First Ammendment, go catch a crook.

I am not a nice person.

Sister, I understand your feelings. Don't be concerned about what JK Rowling(Potter) writes. be concerned with what God has already wrote.
We're not theater and book critics, we're ambassadors for Christ.

The deadliest weapon in the world is not a Marine and his rifle, the deadliest weapon in the world is a Christian with a Bible.

Grace and peace sister

Tony

[biblereader]

I feel compelled to post the parable:

1: Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2: And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3: They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5: While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6: And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7: Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8: And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9: But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10: And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11: Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12: But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13: Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Notice the wise virgins did NOT, I repeat, did NOT share their oil with the foolish virgins.

You, reader, as you read this post, which are you? Wise, or foolish? Are you absolutely sure you're ready for the bridegroom?
Jesus is coming back, soon, and ONLY for his own. He will reject the foolish, and take in the wise.

[George]

Originally Posted by biblereader

I feel compelled to post the parable:

1: Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
2: And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3: They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5: While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6: And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7: Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8: And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9: But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10: And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11: Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12: But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13: Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

Notice the wise virgins did NOT, I repeat, did NOT share their oil with the foolish virgins.

You, reader, as you read this post, which are you? Wise, or foolish? Are you absolutely sure you're ready for the bridegroom?
Jesus is coming back, soon, and ONLY for his own. He will reject the foolish, and take in the wise.

Aloha sister,

Although the parable of the "ten virgins" can be "spiritually" used to warn Christians that we should be ready for the Lord Jesus Christ's eminent return - these verses cannot be applied "doctrinally" to a Christian.

Please check out my link: http://av1611.com/forums/showpost.ph...6&postcount=14 on this subject if you want to know WHY the verses do not apply to Christians.

[biblereader]

Boker Tov, George:
I don't have time to read all that. In a few sentences, you tell me why YOU don't believe the parable has anything to do with Christians, at all.
Tell me what other parts of the bible you believe have no connection with Christians.

[greenbear]

Originally Posted by biblereader

Boker Tov, George:
I don't have time to read all that. In a few sentences, you tell me why YOU don't believe the parable has anything to do with Christians, at all.
Tell me what other parts of the bible you believe have no connection with Christians.

biblereader,

With all due respect, if you have no time to read a page or two of a concise and in-depth exposition of an important doctrinal issue but instead want someone to boil it down further to just a few sentences, your chances of learning anything more deeply than a superficial level are not very great.

God has this to say to us about how to study His Word:

2 Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Isaiah
28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:

In all honesty and sincerity, I think you need to read the Bible less and study the Bible more.

Jennifer