Originally Posted by Jeremy

Dr. Ruckman or any other man is not a hero.

Ehh? Who taught you this, of course there are heroes! There are some women heroes too! We can debate whether Ruckman is such, but please deliver me from a society that no longer recognizes heroes. People have been pulled from burning buildings and cars by heroes. Unarmed heroes have defended helpless women against multiple rapists. Drowning victims have been snatched from frozen rivers by everyday people who put their own lives at risk, those are heroes in my book. We haven't even got to the battle fields of Iraq yet, of course there are heroes. You probably have a few of them in your town.

Repeating my comments from post no. 6, I admire Ruckman's stand on biblical authority because he (along with a group of other decent men) has defended the KJV for many years in the face of the Alexandrian Cult and other slimy, faith-killing Bible deniers who make their living trying to attack it. If that makes him a "hero" of sorts for some, then so be it, there is nothing wrong with heros!
Okay, rant over, sorry Bro. Jeremy.

[Hayseed]

Originally Posted by Bro. Parrish

Ehh? Who taught you this, of course there are heroes! There are some women heroes too! We can debate whether Ruckman is such, but please deliver me from a society that no longer recognizes heroes. People have been pulled from burning buildings and cars by heroes.

Dr Peter S Ruckman probably has pulled many a lost person from the flames of Hell by his honest preaching.

[George]

Aloha brother Parish,

Your absolutely right - of course there are heroes (saved and lost). After all, the word "hero" is a legitimate English word. We can appreciate heroes and heroism in people. What we, as Christians, are not to do is "worship" heroes!

The Holy Bible clearly teaches that God is NOT a "respecter of persons" [Job 36:19, 37:23-24; 2Samuel 14:14; 2Chronicles 19:7; Acts 10:34; Romans 2:11; Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 3:25; 1Peter 1:17 ]; and it instructs God's people not to engage in "respect of persons" - before the Law [Job 13:10, Job 31:16-23, 32:21-22, 34:19 ]; during the Law [Leviticus 19:15; Deuteronomy 1:17, 16:19; Proverbs 24:23, 28:21]; and during this age of Grace [James 2:1, 9].

Considering all of the Christian "celebrities" out there, there sure is a whole lot of "respect of persons" going on in Christian circles today!

On the other hand, "Just a Thought's" frivolous and unfounded charges are just one more example of his trying to stir up "controversy" amongst the brethren, which gives him another opportunity to point fingers and play the "victim".

[Just_A_Thought]

Originally Posted by George

Aloha brother Parish,

Your absolutely right - of course there are heroes (saved and lost). After all, the word "hero" is a legitimate English word. We can appreciate heroes and heroism in people. What we, as Christians, are not to do is "worship" heroes!

The Holy Bible clearly teaches that God is NOT a "respecter of persons" [Job 36:19, 37:23-24; 2Samuel 14:14; 2Chronicles 19:7; Acts 10:34; Romans 2:11; Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 3:25; 1Peter 1:17 ]; and it instructs God's people not to engage in "respect of persons" - before the Law [Job 13:10, Job 31:16-23, 32:21-22, 34:19 ]; during the Law [Leviticus 19:15; Deuteronomy 1:17, 16:19; Proverbs 24:23, 28:21]; and during this age of Grace [James 2:1, 9].

Considering all of the Christian "celebrities" out there, there sure is a whole lot of "respect of persons" going on in Christian circles today!

On the other hand, "Just a Thought's" frivolous and unfounded charges are just one more example of his trying to stir up "controversy" amongst the brethren, which gives him another opportunity to point fingers and play the "victim".

Ummm...I have been trying to stir up trouble? When? I have challange KJVOism in the past and found no one like to debate. Everyone seems to get mad. So I dropped it. Have you not noticed I am not posting anything regarding different versions or anything of that nature.

This thread is not trying to stir up trouble either. I got the thought that everyone like Ruckman so much due to the excitement about the Ruckman Reference Bible coming out (or may be out). I figured it would be a good topic for the chit-chat forum. You need to give a guy a break once in a while and stop accussing people of things they are not doing. If you think I am nothing but trouble then don't read my posts. If you do continue to read my posts and disagree then post why. I will treat you with respect no matter how you treat me to the best of my ability. I am not perfect so I can get nasty to but I try not to. This is something I have failed at much in the past but have been diligently working on.

[Jeremy]

Originally Posted by Bro. Parrish

Ehh? Who taught you this, of course there are heroes! there is nothing wrong with heros!
Okay, rant over, sorry Bro. Jeremy.

Out of all the words to pick on me about you just had to choose hero.
Bad choice of words,yes there are heros,ok.
Everytime i hear that word "hero "it brings up bad memories. like this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-T1h7J0R-Q
Oh how painful,to listen without wanting to run out of the room kicking and screaming
Like fingernails down a chalkboard.