Originally Posted by Paladin54

Bravo, but on some of these (like dragon), you defended the KJB's use of this by saying that other versions have this, but what if somebody attacks the use of "dragons" altogether?

Job 40:15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
Job 40:16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
Job 40:17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
Job 40:18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
Job 40:19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
Job 40:20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
Job 40:21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
Job 40:22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
Job 40:23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.


After reading this verse from Job carefully, and considering the the behemoths cedar sized tail, I defy anyone to say that this is not a description of a dinasour. Only trouble is that the word dinasour is only a relatively modern word:

Main Entry: di·no·saur
Pronunciation: \ˈdī-nə-ˌsȯr\
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin Dinosaurus, genus name, from Greek deinos terrifying + sauros lizard — more at dire
Date: 1841

As explained above, the word dinosaur comes from the Greek, meaning "terrifying lizard".

In the absence of the word dinosaur from the English language prior to 1841, a valid description of an animal that was a 'terrifying lizard" would be the word "dragon"

As for the bible correctors claiming that dragons are a mythical creature....wrong again:

Komodo dragon



Main Entry: Ko·mo·do dragon
Pronunciation: \kə-ˈmō-dō-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Komodo Island, Indonesia
Date: 1927
: an Indonesian monitor lizard (Varanus komodoensis) that is the largest of all known lizards and may attain a length of 10 feet (3 meters)


Dragons exist today, in the flesh, just like they did when the scriptures were being written.

Fundy.

[bibleprotector]

I agree with Will Kinney's article and his analysis. However, the leviathan does not seem to have many heads according to Job 41. There it has one set of jaws, one tongue, one set of eyes, etc.

When it says, "Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces" (Psalm 74:14), the word "leviathan" seems to be a collective noun, because it does not say "the leviathan", just "of leviathan", which is like the usage of the word "fowl" (plural represented without "s" at the end). Confer with: "And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man" (Genesis 7:21).

Therefore the heads belong to different creatures of the leviathan category or class, not one creature having multiple heads. However, we do see that in prophecy there are many headed creatures, and also creation shows that mutant creatures sometimes appear with multiple heads. Therefore, either a mutation in leviathan breeding caused the creatures by the time of King David to have multiple heads, or else the word “leviathan” is a collective noun, which is more likely.

[Will Kinney]

Good stuff, Fundy. Dragons were dinosaurs.

Will K

Originally Posted by Will Kinney

Good stuff, Fundy. Dragons were dinosaurs.

Will K

I believe that you can only come to this conclusion by using the KJV. As far as I am aware,"Scholars" have "corrected" all modern translations of the descrition of behemoth.
Why? because "science" says that dinosaurs died out millions of years ago, so the Bible required fixing.

1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.


Fundy

[scott]

Isa 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
Isa 13:20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.
Isa 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.
Isa 13:22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

In my Bible reading last week, I was in this chapter, and I remembered reading this post a while back, and I thought I'd share this story [you may or may not find this interesting, but here goes]. I was thinking about this word satyrs and dancing and the Lord kept that verse on my mind that day I was reading it....I came home from visitation and turned on the tv and the history channel was on, and some documentary that was kind of interesting and all I was going to do was take a 15 minute nap so I left it on....I was almost asleep and this music came on and I immediately woke up, and remembered the intro as a 60's or 70's song about drugs by Jefferson Airplane called "White Rabbit"; a new documentary had started called "hippies" and I watched in somewhat disbelief for about ten minutes and in that ten minutes I want to say that they showed groups of them doing drug induced dancing and spinning and as I watched, that verse kept coming into my head, so I got my computer out [with my trusty SSearcher program] and looked up the Websters 1828 dictionary for "satyr" and here it is:

SA'TYR, n. l. satyrus; Gr. a monkey, a fawn.

In mythology, a sylvan deity or demi-god, represented as a monster, half man and half goat, having horns on his head, a hairy body, with the feet and tail of a goat. Satyrs are usually found in the train of Bacchus [One who indulges in drunken revels; a drunkard; one who is noisy and riotous, when intoxicated.], and have been distinguished for lasciviousness and riot. They have been represented as remarkable for their piercing eyes and keen raillery.

Does that not pretty much sum up the hippie movement??
I guess the long and the short of my thought is, I think I saw satyrs dancing