Interracial marriage?

George · 11-10-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by atlas

Guys,

What do you think about interracial marriage?

Here is some scripture to jump start the topic.

Atlas

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Nehemiah 13:23-27
23 In those days also saw I Jews that had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, and of Moab:
24 And their children spake half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jews' language, but according to the language of each people.
25 And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, saying, Ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons, or for yourselves.
26 Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, who was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did outlandish women cause to sin.
27 Shall we then hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives?

Read the Scriptures you just quoted. "Race" is not in view!

The issue was Jews (Israelites) and non-Jews (Gentiles). The issue was Jews (God's "chosen people") marrying Pagan (Idol Worshiping) Gentiles. The issue was not about "Race".

According to the Bible mankind descended from three men who were the original progenitors of what we refer to as the three main "races" of mankind: SHEM - The progenitor of the Oriental "race"; HAM - The progenitor of the Negroid "race"; and JAPHETH - The progenitor of the Caucasian "race".

Although the Jews descended from Shem, they were not (strictly speaking) pure "Shemites", and to classify them as a separate "race" would be in error.

Ans so we come to the conclusion that "interracial marriage" is a "misnomer" - IF some Bible thumping bigot is trying to "prove" that because the Jews (Israelites) were FORBIDDEN to marry outside of their nation, that we Christians shouldn't marry someone outside of our "race"!

The world is divided into three kinds of people today: The JEWS; the GENTILES; and the CHURCH [1Corinthians 10:32]. Any other kind of "division" is "divisive" and unscriptural.

Kiwi Christian · 11-10-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by George

Read the Scriptures you just quoted. "Race" is not in view!

The issue was Jews (Israelites) and non-Jews (Gentiles). The issue was Jews (God's "chosen people") marrying Pagan (Idol Worshiping) Gentiles. The issue was not about "Race".

According to the Bible mankind descended from three men who were the original progenitors of what we refer to as the three main "races" of mankind: SHEM - The progenitor of the Oriental "race"; HAM - The progenitor of the Negroid "race"; and JAPHETH - The progenitor of the Caucasian "race".

Although the Jews descended from Shem, they were not (strictly speaking) pure "Shemites", and to classify them as a separate "race" would be in error.

Ans so we come to the conclusion that "interracial marriage" is a "misnomer" - IF some Bible thumping bigot is trying to "prove" that because the Jews (Israelites) were FORBIDDEN to marry outside of their nation, that we Christians shouldn't marry someone outside of our "race"!

The world is divided into three kinds of people today: The JEWS; the GENTILES; and the CHURCH [1Corinthians 10:32]. Any other kind of "division" is "divisive" and unscriptural.

Good post George, I'm in agreement with you.

Brother Tim · 11-10-2008, 02:09 PM

Atlas, "nations" do not equal "races".

If the OT law is for the Jews, did your wife sin by marrying a "strange man"?

atlas · 11-10-2008, 02:11 PM

Tim,

Maybe you need to see this part my friend.

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It looks like God is opposed to interracial marriage in the O.T. but not opposed to interracial marriage in the N.T. This is how it looks to me so far.

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Atlas, "nations" do not equal "races".

In this case it dose, look who they all came from.

I know I'm under the N.T. and I do not see anything in the Bible opposed to interracial marriage in the N.T.

Why is everyone so uptight today?

Atlas

atlas · 11-10-2008, 02:14 PM

George,

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IF some Bible thumping bigot is trying to "prove" that because the Jews (Israelites) were FORBIDDEN to marry outside of their nation, that we Christians shouldn't marry someone outside of our "race"!

Are you calling me a bigot now?

Atlas

Brother Tim · 11-10-2008, 02:19 PM

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Why is everyone so uptight today?

You seem to be wanting to stir up something here, Atlas. Your first post implies a present-day question, but then you jump to God's mandate for OT Israel, apparently slightly changing the subject.

If you have determined that the OT text no longer applies, why bring up the question at all? There is no debate whatsoever that God intended that the nation of Israel remain isolated from the rest of the world, marriage-wise. The only NT picture that can be drawn is restated in I Corinthians.

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2 Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

atlas · 11-10-2008, 02:22 PM

Tim,

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You seem to be wanting to stir up something here,

It was a very good topic on Cody's forum. I thought it maybe a good topic here.

I think this maybe like the " God hates sinners topic " It's not the same in the O.T. as it is now. As Bro. Parish posted. Things do change from O.T. to N.T.

But this dose apply to saved and lost people just as it did in the O.T. Saves folks should not marry lost folks. I know that rule still appears in the N.T.

Atlas

Brother Tim · 11-10-2008, 02:23 PM

SIDENOTE: Moabites and Ammonites were Shemites, yet were on the forbidden list. Jesus had Moabite connections through Ruth.

atlas · 02:32 PM

Tim,

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SIDENOTE: Moabites and Ammonites were Shemites, yet were on the forbidden list. Jesus had Moabite connections through Ruth.

This is a good side note I have never noticed before.

Did you ever notice the Noah issue?

Gen. 6:9

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Notice what made God mad, race mixing with angles. Noah made God happy because of three reasons.

1. Noah was a just man

2. Perfect in his generations

3. Noah walked with God

I belive that Gen. 6:2 was talking about angles.

Atlas

Diligent · 11-10-2008, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by atlas

Why is everyone so uptight today?

Atlas,

The verses you quoted don't say anything about race. That's Scriptural. Equating them with "race" is isogesis.

In fact you'd be hard pressed to find anything in the Bible about race. The Bible defines nations, not races. Race is at its core an evolutionary concept, not a Biblical one.

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