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The Originals and Can translation be inspired?
Born Crucified,
This post is just for you my friend. The Originals and Can translation be inspired? I want to know why so many use a concordance to correct the Bible? We seem to have a few of these guys around here as of late. Their final authority is a concordance not the Bible. Now here is the issue at hand. Many folks always want to talk about “ The Originals.” There is only one place in the Bible that deals with the issue of “ The Originals,” So let's look into the Bible and see what happened to the original of one book. There is only one place in the Bible that deals with an original. We are going to study this and see what happens to this original. This will also tell us what God thinks about “ The Originals.” Does God put as much stock in “ The Originals ” as Christians do today? Lets find out. Quote:
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Here they are asking Baruch how he wrote the book. Quote:
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Now lets look at verse 27 and 28. So now comes the copy. Quote:
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How did we get a copy of Jeremiah when the original and the copy were both destroyed? Now where did copy number three come from? There must have been a copy number three we all have the book of Jeremiah. We know that it must be a copy and was not copied from the original. See 36:28 again. Quote:
So is God worried about “ The Originals?” No not at all you should not be either. People always say well “ The Originals ” say this and “ The Originals ” say that. However God did not care about “ The Originals.” enough to keep it from burning up. Now king Jehoiakim burned only “ three or four leaves,” of the book of Jeremiah. Here he is burning it and cutting it. Quote:
Now we do not know if the book of Jeremiah copy was copied from the copy before the copy took a bath so to speak or it was written from Jeremiah speaking again. We have no idea and do not know. We do know we have a full copy of the book of Jeremiah. We do know what happened to “ The Original ” of Jeremiah and the 1st copy. The original was burned and the copy was in the river. So what are we as Christians supposed to care about the original, or the originals? Not at all. God did not seem to care, nor should we. Many people make way to much of the originals. God only thought enough about it to put it in one place in the Bible and tell us what happened to it. God's man got rid of the copy, and God did not care. An evil king got rid of the original and God did not care. So any person that starts all of this originals talk is way off base. The originals do not matter all of that much. You'd better worry about the Bible you've got. The Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic also do not matter that much either. God said he would preserve his word. Quote:
Many people will tell translation can not be inspired. So lets see if this is correct. Well what does the Bible say about this issue. That is what we must know. We can not take anyone's word for this. We need to look into the Bible to see if this indeed is true. Quote:
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Joseph was speaking Egyptian and translator translated it to Hebrew. This is very easy to read and understand. When Joseph spoke was he inspired? When the translator spoke was he inspired? Moses wrote the Book of Genesis, was he inspired? Now lets look at Acts chapter 21:40 for our second example. Quote:
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Now you can not find one part of the book of Acts written in Hebrew, it is all in Greek. You also can not find the part of Genesis written in Egyptian as Joseph spoke to his brothers. Did God inspire translation? Can God inspire translation? Now this is in the Bible. This is a Bible fact. Now you do not have to believe this, but this is what is in the Bible. The Bible shows where translation can be and is inspired. Now Luke wrote the Book of Acts. Quote:
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So in Acts chapter 9 Jesus is speaking in Hebrew. We know this for a fact. So Jesus spoke Hebrew in chapter 9, no doubt about it. Is this inspired? Either it is or it is not. Now here we are again, Luke wrote it in Greek while Jesus spoke in Hebrew. So here we have inspired translation again. Now if anyone tells you translation can not be inspired they are not using the Bible to back up this statement. Translation can be and is inspired. Here are three places in the Bible where translation is inspired. No one can not prove from the Bible that translation can not be inspired. Now I have proven from the Bible that translation can be inspired. It can be proved in the O.T. and the N.T., as it has been proven here in this study. Now there are 30 examples. I have given you only 3, 10% of the places in the Bible that proves translation can be and is inspired. Now no one can not show me one place I the Bible where translation can not be inspired and I can show you 30 where it is. Now I have given you the 3 most powerful examples out of the 30 to back up translation can be inspired. As far as “ The Originals ” go there is the only place in the Bible that tells what happens to an original. We see God's reaction we also see God's man, the writer of the book and his reaction. In Bible colleges all over our nation and the world. “ The Originals ” are always spoken as the only inspired Word of God. They all will tell you that a translation can not be inspired, nor can copies be inspired. We see here in the Bible that translation is inspired and a copy is inspired. For some reason these “ men of God ” can use a Greek lexicon, Bible commentary, Strong's Concordance, Young's Concordance or Bible software to correct the Bible. I'll tell you that 99.99% of the people out there that correct the Bible do so with what I have listed here. ( Greek lexicon, Bible commentary, Strong's Concordance, Young's Concordance or Bible software. ) Most can not read Greek or Hebrew. The just go get a few bible study tools and use those tools to correct the Bible. Let me say this in closing. Strong's Concordance is not the final authority. Strong's Concordance is not God's word. Not one of these tools did God ordain nor are they perfect. If the Bible says one thing and the Greek lexicon, Bible commentary, Strong's Concordance, Young's Concordance or Bible software says something else who is right? What is preserved by God? See this is the real issue at hand. What is your final authority? Is it a concordance with Greek words or is it the Bible? Quote:
Atlas Last edited by atlas; 10-12-2008 at 05:22 PM. |
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Bump!!!!!!
Atlas |
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God bless Atlas, good post
Amen But I am confused about one part.. How are Luke and Theophilus the same person? |
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Luke,
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There Luke, is this better? I made a mistake when writing. Luke wrote Acts to Theophilus, they are not the person. But the book of Luke is to Theophilus also. Quote:
Atlas |
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Thanks
I knew that Acts and Luke were both written by Luke, to Theophilus.. I just got confused when you said they were the same person, because it would make it seem as though Luke thought very highly of himself hehe Thanks. |
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Luke,
Yea sorry about that. That was a lot of writing my friend. To about the mistake. I wonder why, BC aka, Born Crucified, aka Bible Corrector has not posted a reply as of yet? He's a big Strong's man. I hope he replies very soon indeed. I want to hear his thought on this issue, I'm sure he will use Strong's or Young's to correct me. It's funny many of the Bible correctors can not even read Greek or Hebrew. I'd love to have him here with me and my Hebrew O.T. and have him tell me in person what it says. We could have a few of my Jewish Rabbi friends tell me if he was right and if he can indeed read Hebrew. Atlas |
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I want to know what the name "Born Crucified" even means. Some names don't need an explanation. Some are just unique or different (Vendetta Ride for example), but a name like Born Crucified needs an explanation please.
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Theophilus, High Priest
Hi Folks,
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Shalom, Steven PS. No, you won't find this in a lot of Commentaries. This is all a bit too simple and too clear and too true to be accepted. And too early for the liberal scholarship of doubt. They also don't like the fact that you don't have to be a rocket scientist and arcana aficionado to appreciate the accuracy of a rather obvious relationship (once you have seen the factual backdrop). Last edited by Steven Avery; 10-13-2008 at 12:47 AM. |
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Hi Atlas,
Great post, Hope you dont mind, I have saved it to a "my documents" file for use at our Bible study. fundy |
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Fundy,
Glad you it. Sure you can keep it and use it. I hope it helps someone. Atlas |
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