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Originally Posted by chette777

So everyone has some feelings about this issue and that is good.

ok, now Paul say grieve not and quench not the Holy Ghost. Forrest is correct there is no admonishment to unquench or ungrieve. But if Paul said these things it is obvious that some have grieved and some have quenched the Holy Ghost.

So if anyone grieves or quenches the Holy Ghost what does that actually mean exactly? How does our quenching or grieving affect on our current status before God? And If we admit that we have done so how does that admission affect on our current status before God.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

1 Thessalonians 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.

It’s relevant, Brother Chette, that surrounding each of these admonitions to not “grieve” or “quench” the Holy Spirit we find many things we should be doing. (Confessing them as sin in order to be forgiven of sins and to be cleansed from all unrighteousness is not one of them.)

When we disobey the things we should be doing and do not repent when the Holy Spirit reproves us through the word of God—that is when we “grieve” and “quench” the Holy Spirit.

Ephesians 4:22-32

1. put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
   
2. be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
   
3. put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
   
4. putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
   
5. Be ye angry, and sin not:
   
6. let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
   
7. Neither give place to the devil.
   
8. Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
   
9. Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
   
10. grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
    
11. Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
    
12. be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

1 Thessalonians 5:11-26

1. Wherefore comfort yourselves together,
   
2. edify one another, even as also ye do.
   
3. know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you; And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake.
   
4. be at peace among yourselves.
   
5. warn them that are unruly,
   
6. comfort the feebleminded,
   
7. support the weak,
   
8. be patient toward all men.
   
9. See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
   
10. Rejoice evermore.
    
11. Pray without ceasing.
    
12. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
    
13. Quench not the Spirit.
    
14. Despise not prophesyings.
    
15. Prove all things;
    
16. hold fast that which is good.
    
17. Brethren, pray for us.
    
18. Greet all the brethren with an holy kiss. [That’s a tough one. ]

So there are many Biblical truths, exhortations, admonitions, and teachings we should all obey as Christians. I don’t follow all of them. Personally, I thank God for the precious blood of Jesus that continually cleanseth me from ALL sin. Otherwise I have no hope. It’s real because I am in Christ. Christ alone—yesterday, today, and forever.

The Holy Spirit is faithful to bring conviction and reproof through the written word of God when we are notdoing those things listed above. If we ignore the promptings and reproofs of the Spirit we quench and grieve Him.

I am going to be transparent with you, Brother Chette. Throughout my Christian life of 30 years, I’ve committed some horrible sins. I have been so stupid, so weak, so fleshly, so proud, so ignorant, and so foolish throughout my Christian life that one would have questioned whether or not I was truly saved.

As you know, God has used the disabling disease, Multiple Sclerosis, to bring me to the end of self. I realize some of the brethren will say I have MS because I didn't "confess" my sins. I did prior to having MS. If it was not for the Lord Jesus Christ, we would all be laid up or dead.

Over the past 8 years something extraordinary and freeing has happened in my life. Jesus Christ has become the passion of my life. He is so intimately personal that I hear His voice all the time. Not audibly of course, it's much clearer than that. He is more real to me than my wife. I mean that. He is on my heart and mind all the time. There is no uppity spiritual arrogance here. I am not claiming spiritual superiority. I boast in the Lord.

During the last several years, God, through His word, has opened my understanding to what I really have and who I really am in Christ. It is not me anymore and therefore not limited. It is abundant grace to help in time of need. I am really complete in Him. I lack nothing in Christ. I’ve been blessed by the Father with all spiritual blessing in Heavenly places in Christ Jesus. I am righteous, holy, unblameable, and unreproveable in His sight. It's not just head knowledge anymore but it's real, intimate, genuine knowledge of Jesus Christ.

What can we do in order to avoid grieving or quenching the Holy Spirit? Simply this—love, know, follow, adore, worship, and praise our Lord Jesus Christ. He will direct us.

Matthew 17:8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only.