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Old 05-25-2009, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by boaz212 View Post
Someone made a statement while discussing the capital punishment issue said it was a bad translation in Exd 20:13 Thou shalt not kill. The word kill should have been "murder".
I believe the KJV is correct. But can anyone shed more light on the word selection "kill" instead of "murder" for me?
Thanks in advance.
Tim, the translation in both Hebrew and Greek("kill" OT, "murder" NT)is correct. Jesus defines for us the exact meaning of the word. God sent the children of Israel into Palestine to wipe out the Canaanites down to the dogs and chickens, to scorch the earth to cleanse the land of the taint of their evil. This was a military action.

The issue of capital punishment is settled by God in Romans:

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are Godís ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

We have the right to legally resist the banning of Bible study in San Diego county because the law says we may resist and oppose it, not with pipe bombs but legally constituted methods as voting, judicial action, and boycotting.

Moses would be tried today for voluntary manslaughter in his killing of the Egyptian taskmaster who beat the Israelite but it was murder nonetheless. King David put the husband of the woman he wanted in the front line of the attack, that was murder. Soldiers have to attack and defend themselves, that is not murder. Neither is a cop who must kill to defend himself or citizens in the line of duty. Romans 13 makes it clear God established civil government. Paul states there are those who are of a "reprobate mind" and do foul and obscene things in Romans 1 and that they are "...worthy of death". We once had capital punishment for child molesters, and we do for child killers. It was Plato or one of the Greek philosophers said something almost Biblical: Where homosexuality and perversion is tolerated, it will flourish.

Roman's 13 settles the capital punishment issue, case closed.

Mt 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

In all your studies of the OT never forget also: The "Ten" Commandments are no more important than any of the other 630+ Laws. If you break one you broke all of them according to James. If you shaved today you broke the Law. If you cook a meal on the Jewish Sabbath, you broke the Law. As Gentiles we are not nor ever were under the Law. The Law was to lead the Jews to Christ, He is the "end" of the Law for those that believe. But we are under the civil law, it was established and backed by God.

Grace and peace Tim