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Old 05-03-2008, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Gord View Post
Near the end of Joyner's rant he points out

I am so busy soaking up what the bible is trying to impart to me, I find it a blessing to read NASB, NKJV, ESV along with my KJV for that parallel comparison to help be understand the content rather then the actual word for word translation, I have enough trouble with English let alone Greek.
Oh, don't worry about it. It's more important to have the Holy Ghost teach you than to have a ("Politically correct?" LOL) Bible. Remember the Philippians ref? Christ is still preached.
If we start finding contradictions in His words, that should concern you. God is not the author of confusion (I Cor 14:33), nor is He a liar (Tit 1:2). I won't bog you down with many verses. I would offer you one verse at a time for comparison to try to convince you of the integrity of the King James Bible, and the lack thereof the rest(NASB-ESV-NIV, etc.).
I would first ask you who killed Goliath? Look in your NASB-ESV-NIV at II Samuel 21:19.

There was war with the Philistines again at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

I always thought David killed Goliath!

And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam.

The KJB does not contradict I Chron 20:5, which says Elhanan slew the brother of Goliath. The new perversions outright contradict the account in I Sam 17:51 and I Chron 20:5 in their own bible. This contradiction would make God a liar. "Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever." (Psalm 119:160). Now this is a Holy God who imparted these words to us, and promised to preserve them. I, or any of these learned folks here will give you the numerous verses of God's repeated promise to preseve His words. If we cannot bank these promises, we cannot trust our promise from Him of eternal life. You can get saved from a pornography book if it has some truth of God's words(this has in fact happened). Is just getting saved, and then abandoning doctrine what you believe the Lord wants you to do? According to Strong’s Greek Concordance doctrine means “instruction (the function or the information):--doctrine, learning, teaching.” Do you go home and read the pornography book you got saved from reading to get your teaching? Do you care at all about doctrine? Will you follow a translation of a false, corrupt Critical Text that has 2886 less words, and effects 356 doctrines in the NT? Do not the words make up doctrine? How are you going to have the Holy Ghost teach you? With visions or voices? The fact is the perversions do not teach what the KJB does. They water down every doctrine that is holy of the Lord. His deity, the vigin birth, His omniscience, omnipresence, omniopotence, and every holy attribute of the Lord Jesus Christ. The perversions end up preaching a different Christ. You will be following a lie if you believe using different versions will help give you better understanding. That's why they are different. Two things that are different are not the same.

Last edited by Debau; 05-03-2008 at 07:49 AM.