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Originally Posted by Richard.Strickland

I John 1
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

The verse has a condition to it, if.

Now, to all those who assumed that a particular post`s author is only expressing a strict doctrinal interpretation of what he shared sincerely to the thread readers : Please, do not over look the conditions applied to each verse of your quoted scriptures in all of each your posts as I have done. The conditional word that many have over looked can completely change the meaning GOD intended.

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. II Timothy 3:16,17

Now apply II Timothy 2:15
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

Now review all of my post and I think you can see clearly the conditional, practical, and future relevance that

I John 1:9 has to all of this.

While you are in II Timothy take a close look at 2:16


16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

Each day we all have to choose to continue walk in the light. Hence, refer to my post #71 and from this understand the practical application of the sin unto death

Now, before you all get flared up and stiffed necked, I believe: once saved always saved, unconditionally.

I believe, if you accept the LORD Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour with all your heart, meaning that those whosoever will admit personally to the LORD Jesus Christ right now: they are a sinner headed for hell, which will be eternal damnation; and call on his name (Romans 10:13) are saved out of the love (John 3:16) and the grace(Ephesians 2:8) that GOD showed when he gave his only begotten Son, CHRIST JESUS[born of a virgin(Matthew 1:23)], who they took to Golgotha to the place called Calvary, there they crucified him on the cross , with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water (look in all of the Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Old Testament prophecy).

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
No one can look into another`s heart and know if they are genuine except for one, and he paid the supreme price for all our sins whether you want to name them past present, future, practical, or doctrinal; he paid the price of sin for "whosoever".Act 8:35,36,37

Now read Romans 14:10,11,12 and tell me you do not see the present, future, practical, and need for the doctrinal Confessing of ones sins.
God`s law is our standard for living not for salvation(Romans 3:20).

32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. Mathew 23:23

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Matthew 23:23

Does any one reading this post think, that since you are save by grace; you have been given a license or divine right to sin? Yes or No

If you say YES, GOD HELP YOU, I have noticed Ephesians 4:30 used contrary to its meaning someone check all these posts on "Should Christians search their hearts and confess their sins?"

Ephesians 4:30
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

It means You are saved by grace and you are bought with a price. God is Holy and you are going to heaven without a doubt but if you sin and grieve the Holy Spirit God may say that is enough of your hypocrisy and you will experience the price of sin.

Romans 6:23

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

The debt of sin will be paid: with a price of eternal damnation(the unforgivable sin) for those who refuse to accept Christ Jesus as their Saviour

or

The debt of sin will be paid: with a price of in practical or literal terms physical death(the death unto sin) and also in future spirtual terms at the Judgement seat of Christ YOU SHALL BE ASHAMED. Which is for Christian that hurts the cause of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ by living an ungodly wicked life claiming and teaching by your actions that once you are saved you have a license or divine right to sin

Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God

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18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. II peter 3:18

While there have been different views expressed, no one on this thread has advocated taking sin lightly. No one has advocated a license to sin. No one has advocated that a Christian can sin all they want with no consequences. When a person gets saved all of their sins are forgiven. The idea that a Christian has to get their sins forgiven every time they sin comes from Roman Catholicism and taken up by Protestants and unfortunately many Baptists. A Christian is one in whom Christ dwells and He will not let you stay in sin. The Holy Spirit will bring conviction and point out your sin. We are not to seek forgiveness because that has already been provided. Our responsibility is to turn away from the sin which we can do in the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit. Two errors that Christians can fall into are legalism and license, but there’s one remedy for both; our new identity in Christ. Any person who can sin and not be bothered by it or thinks they can sin all they want with no consequences could be deceived, but most likely they’re lost. On the other hand we beleivers are dead to and freed from sin.

Romans 6
1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2. God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3. Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4. Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6. Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7. For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9. Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13. Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14. For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Galatians 2:19-20 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Colossians 3
1. If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.