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Old 06-01-2009, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: "Israel's New Covenant" - BEWARE HERESY

From the old curmudgeon : A message to all genuine Bible believers on the Forum,

A review of the "belief system" held by Tandi (now "Renah") reveals a perverse interpretation of the Holy Scriptures where all things that are exclusive to the Pauline doctrine for the New Testament church are twisted, perverted, and brought under a "Hebraic" understanding of the Scriptures.

From the very beginning of Tandi/Renah’s joining the AV1611 Bible Forums I was "uneasy" about this woman. I have said that she is a "JUDAIZER" and now she has PROVEN my point!

This is an out and out HERESY and Tandi/Renah is a HERETIC! Now some of the Christians on this Forum do not "like" my blunt speech, but we are all adults here (or we are supposed to be), and calling something (or someone) that is contrary to “the Scripture of truth” by its proper name should not be considered bad manners. And if Christians weren't so shot-through with Humanistic Psychiatry and Psychology we would all be of the same mind and of the same judgment on these issues. [
1 Corinthians 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.]

This woman Tandi/Renah is basically saying that most of us on this Forum are wrong in our beliefs. To be more specific she is saying that we have embraced a LIE and are trusting the WRONG Jesus! He’s NOT Jesus – He’s “YESHUA”! If you don’t believe me, read her words (very carefully) – because they are subtle, crafty, and very cleverly put together:

"My treatise is more like a cup of cold water thrown in your face. It may be unpleasant, but if it succeeds in waking the Remnant like a shrill alarm clock, it will have served its purpose. In any event, I don’t seem to know how to write any other way. Maybe this is my gift. I am a shofar, not a flute. May the LORD by His Spirit continue to bring the promised Restoration of the true faith in these Last Days, and may His people rise up to their destiny in the difficult yet awesome days ahead." {Maybe this is my gift?}
This woman Tandi/Renah (it would nice if she would make up her mind) has deigned to INSTRUCT all of us poor, misguided, and ignorant Christians in “a more perfect way” – much like “Priscilla” of old. The problem is the “Priscilla” of Scripture never acted on her own; she was always with her HUSBAND each and every time she is mentioned in the New Testament [Acts 18:2,18,26; Romans 16:3; 1Corinthians 16:19]. We have NOT heard one little “peep” out of Tandi/Renah’s HUSBAND, I wonder WHY? It couldn’t possibly be that Tandi/Renah is OUT OF ORDER – could it?

1 Timothy 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived,
but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

THE SHOCKING AND CONTROVERSIAL TRUTH {by inference – We don’t know the REAL “TRUTH”}
Christians claim to embrace the New Covenant. Yet many deny everything that defines the New Covenant! The New Covenant is made with Israel. Yet they deny they are Israelites subject to the promises and responsibilities of being Israelites. The New Covenant is made with the two houses of Israel. Yet they deny that there are two houses of Israel and claim that Israel is just Jews. They claim that “the Church” is a distinct entity from Israel with different rules and different promises altogether. Where is that in Scripture? The New Covenant is a covenant in which God’s laws are written in the hearts of those born again. Yet, Christians deny that God’s laws have any place in their lives and declare them obsolete! So, in effect, by “accepting Jesus,” yet rejecting the “New Covenant,” they have not entered into covenant status with the LORD at all! Please read this paragraph prayerfully again, comparing it with the verses above, and let it sink in.”
Tandi/Renah has so little spiritual discernment and understanding that she cannot distinguish between the “New Covenant” that the Lord is going to establish with His People Israel (genuine Jews/Hebrews/Israelites) and that “covenant” that He made with His church (where there is neither Jew nor Gentile).
[Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the
blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.]

I am not going to waste my time refuting Tandi/Renah’s “blasphemy” with my usual Scriptural defense – it should be plain to all that this woman is not just “mistaken”, but that she has embraced a “false teaching” and is in fact a “false teacher”!

Tandi/Renah is under the false impression that God has actually CHANGED her heart (and the hearts of those people who are of the same perverse persuasion) like He is going to CHANGE the hearts of the people of Israel WHEN He institutes the New Covenant that He will make with them at the beginning of His Millennial Reign on earth.

Ezekiel 36:16 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
17 Son of man, when the house of
Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:
19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of
Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
22 Therefore say unto the house of
Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

Brethren - Do you think or believe that this prophesy is talking about born again Christians? Did we live in the LAND of Israel? Were we “scattered” amongst the nations of the world? Has God gathered us (Christians) back into “your own land”? Has God given us a NEW HEART YET? You could have fooled me!

Remember what I said a little while ago?

The third KEYto Understanding the Bible: THE JEW {Hebrew - Israelite}
{Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (Israel), Moses, Joshua, the Judges, David, Solomon, the Kings, and the Prophets, etc. - All Jews i.e. Hebrews, Israelites.}

Please keep in mind this simple Scriptural FACT = an Undeniable Truth

Almost all: False Teaching or Perverted Doctrine or Heresy

Comes from: GOD’S COMMANDMENTS – Given to the Jews {Hebrews/Israelites}

That have been EXPROPRIATED by - A church
That have been EXPROPRIATED by - A cult
That have been EXPROPRIATED by - An individual

Or from: GOD’S PROMISES – Given to the Jews {Hebrews/Israelites}

That have been STOLEN by - A church
That have been STOLEN by -A cult
That have been STOLEN by -An individual

Or from: GOD’S PROPHECIES – Concerning the Jews {Hebrews/Israelites}

That have been APPLIED to - A church
That have been APPLIED to -A cult
That have been APPLIED to -An individual

If this isn’t what Tandi/Renah is doing, then what is it?

I am not going to go much further with this expose, but let’s touch on the next bit of “blasphemy” that Tandi/Renah has “conjured up” for us:
WHO IS THE REAL JESUS? {by inference – We have NOT believed in the REAL “JESUS”}
What “Jesus” have Christians accepted when they do not accept His words, His ways, His covenant? The Bible speaks of “another Jesus,” one who Paul did not preach (2 Cor. 11:4). This is the “Jesus” that many have accepted as their “savior.” He is an imposter, a devil in disguise, an idol, a counterfeit, an antichrist. Those who truly accept the LORD Jesus Christ as their Saviour are accepting a Jewish Messiah, whose Hebrew name is YESHUA. They are grafted in to the Olive Tree, and become “chosen people,” adopted sons and citizens of the Israel of God (see Romans 11 and Galatians 6:16). They may, unbeknownst to them, be descended from the tribes of Israel scattered throughout the nations (see Hosea 1, Ezekiel 36, Romans 9, and James 1:1), or they may be Gentiles, or they may be Jews. All must enter through the same Door. All must be branches of the same Tree. There is One Shepherd, one flock, one faith (Jer. 23:3; Eph. 4:5; Jude 3-4).”
Did you get that? Tandi/Renah is saying that the “Jesus” that most of us have believed in is: “an imposter, a devil in disguise, an idol, a counterfeit, an antichrist.”!!! She is accusing most of us of having RECEIVED “an imposter! (my how "loving" & "non-judgmental") Tandi/Renah is saying that the Lord Jesus Christ” who I received as my Saviour nearly 51 years ago is NOT truly the REAL JESUS! Do you understand WHY I get upset with some of these people?

Do you remember how "sweeeet" this woman was? and how she upbraided me for being too hard and judgmental? Does the word "hypocrite" come to mind?

Romans 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

This woman is a “false brethren” who slipped in here and has caused confusion and division, and in the end the TRUTH comes out – she has embraced a damnable lie and is now trying to “foist it” on the rest of the brethren on this Forum! {This Forum is like a MAGNET to kooks, crazies, crackpots, and hereticks}
The New Covenant is a renewed covenant. The Old Covenant, summarized in Ten Commandments on stone tablets, is now renewed, with these same commandments engraved in our hearts, giving us the inner motivation to obey them. Now we love His commandments. They are no longer grievous burdens. With “Jesus in our heart” we can do what once seemed too difficult (Phil. 4:13; Matt. 19:26). This is why the New Covenant is better than the Old (Hebrews 8:6-10).”
Tandi/Renah actually believes that God has “engraved” in her heart these “same commandments” that He gave to the nation of Israel long ago.

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Bill Gothard should be proud!

Last edited by George; 06-01-2009 at 09:28 AM.