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Old 06-08-2009, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: "Ask Mr. Religion -Intro"

Originally Posted by PB1789 View Post
"Hello AMR. Welcome to the website. I clicked on the link to your homepage and I like what I see! Be warned though that the resident Landmarkers, Arminians and the slice-n-dice the scriptures folks (aka; Dispensationalists) will be very upset with you simply because you have admitted that you hold to the Reformed Faith. Post Tenebrux , Lux! Out of Darkness, Light!"

"I would urge you to look at the first (Home page) of this site and look up the works by Edward Hills (The King James Bible Defended) and also the writings of Dean Burgon. Also read a book by Fuller titled "Which Bible?". The site owner (Diligent) has posted a short list of verses that are different or mangled by the new translations, on the front page called "verse charts". Two that could be included in that chart are John1:1 and Romans 3:25. The NWT and the NIV are really bad translations."

"BTW, the Hills book is now available free on the internet thanks to his widow."

"Stay on the Path - just as "Christian" was heading for The Celestial City."

Aloha all,

I have noticed that "PB1789" has enlarged his list of “LABELS” in dispensing with all of us here on the AV1611 Bible Forums who have not embraced Calvinism. At one time it was just: “the "Free-Will" folks on this website” and “the ARMINIANS” (see links below) – He now has “expanded” that list to: “Be warned though that the resident Landmarkers, Arminians and the slice-n-dice the scriptures folks (aka; Dispensationalists)”.

Our brother “PB1789” has never seen fit to refute any of the Posts that I made on the Thread “Calvinism Sound Doctrine?”; instead he has resorted to dismissing us and whatever we may have to say, by the simple device of “LABELING” us first, and then placing us in one “CAMP” or another. By his latest comments, I see he has been forced to reevaluate his private “LABELING SYSTEM” and has now ADDED the: “slice-n-dice the scriptures folks (aka; Dispensationalists)”.

This is a clever “device”, but it fails to refute the Scriptural expose of the doctrines of Calvinism (as put forth in T.U.L.I.P.), and what many of us on the AV1611 Bible Forums believe. Instead “PB1789” has resorted to the last refuge of a man who cannot defend his beliefs – LABELS and calling people NAMES! Just exactly like I said back in March 4 of this year:

AV1611 Bible Forums > Doctrine > CALVINISM: Sound Doctrine?” > Post#72
Part of Post #72 - PB1789’s Quote:TULIP was penned as a REPLY to the attacks of the ARMINIANS (not armEnians---they live near present-day Turkey) in the 1600's in The Netherlands, where students of Jacob Hermann (Jacobus Arminius-his Latinized name) a professor -- taught the very things that most of the "Free-Will" folks on this website hold to... but don't even know that they are just doing what Arminius' students did centuries ago in Holland when they attacked the Biblical Doctrine of God's Sovereign Grace, and His All-Knowing/All-Seeing/Omni-Presence with the publication of the "Remonstrance".
AV1611 Bible Forums > Doctrine > CALVINISM: Sound Doctrine?” > Post#73
Part of Post #73 - George’s Quote: “Your weak attempt to "classify" and "label" all of us who disagree with you and your beliefs as the "the Free-Will folks", is the "last refuge" of a man who is unable to defend what he believes, and ends up calling people names! SAD!”
Part of Post #73 - George’s Quote: For the record – Please note how a Calvinist (PB1789) goes about labeling (“the "Free-Will" folks on this website”) those of us who disagree with his “precious doctrine”, and placing us in the "ARMINIAN" Camp, just exactly as I said most Calvinists do, in my introductory remarks to this Thread!”
Ask yourself – WHY was it necessary for “PB1789” to “warn” AMR about US? (In an "Introductory Thread" - NO LESS!) Did he not see the man’s “CREDENTIALS”? Does he think that AMR wouldn’t have the discernment to be able to discern where many (if not “most”) of US are coming from? WHY the “warning”? WHY do “Christians” resort to these underhanded tactics? WHY didn’t “PB1789” at least wait for a little while before warning AMR and personally insulting many of the brethren on the Forum?

Is “PB1789” so dissatisfied with the brethren on this Forum that he has to WARN a newcomer to the Forum about US? WHY would “PB1789” want to plant seeds of distrust before AMR even has the opportunity to get to know us, and vise versa? HOW is it that "PB1789" knows that we "will be very upset with you (AMR) simply because you have admitted that you hold to the Reformed Faith." Isn't that prejudging US - BEFORE we have said or done anything?

Today’s “Christians” never cease to amaze me! Between “Tmonk” and “GREEKtim” seeking to weaken a Christian’s faith in God’s Holy words and “PB1789” attempting to “stir up trouble” with a new member to the Forum (BEFORE anything is even said or done); we sure have our share of “TROUBLEMAKERS”!

It’s like I have said before: I wouldn’t think of joining any church, institution, club, group, Forum, etc., with which I was in fundamental disagreement with; so WHY do these “TROUBLEMAKERS” come here - unless it is to foment dissension, contention, strife, and division? You wouldn’t catch me joining the “FFF” Forum – NOT for ALL the tea in China; NOT ON YOUR LIFE!

We Christians are supposed to be always edifying one another [Romans 14:19; Romans 15:2; 1Corinthians 10:23; 1Corinthians 14:3, 12, 26; 2 Corinthians 10:8; 2Corinthians 12:19; 2 Corinthians 13:10; Ephesians 4:12-16, 29; 1Thessalonians 5:11;1Timothy 1:4] – NOT always engaging “theological debates” (GREEKtim).

Romans 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

2 Corinthians 12:20 For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:
Did you notice: that “DEBATE” is up there with – “fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; murder, deceit, and malignity? WHY would a “Christian” ENJOYDEBATE”? I will “contend for the faith”, but I get NO pleasure or enjoyment from DEBATE! I grow weary of all the “gnat-strainers”, “troublemakers", and Sophists!

Proverbs 22:10 Cast out the scorner, and contention shall go out; yea, strife and reproach shall cease.

Last edited by George; 06-08-2009 at 08:26 PM.