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Originally Posted by Luke
Hi Gophgetter, I will try to post this with more grace than I have done so previously.
You said above that you challenge us to find anything you saidthat does not line up with Jesus and the Apostles. If by that, you mean Jesus and the 12, then you'd be absolutely right. If the Books of the NT went like this
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Hebrews, James... etc etc
Then you would be absolutely right.
However, you are forgetting to rightly divide. The mystery of the revelation was given to Paul. His teaching is for this mystery age. The church age was not known about before Christ came. The doctrines for this age are within the Pauline epistles.
I noticed you quote Romans 8. That's true. If you live by the flesh, ye shall die. Then what? Die and go to hell? It doesn't say that. It just says die. Just like if ye live according to the spirit, ye shall live. Where? Here... on earth. Paul doesn't mention eternal life 5 verses either side. He mentions sonship, adoption. The entire chapter is on becoming more Christ-like in His power and faith, but there is no loss of salvation here.
The other verses you quote result in error because you have wrongly divided.
EDIT: It seems that whereever you have seen the word death, you think eternity in hell.
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Aloha brother Luke,
I am "
done" with "gophgetter". He cannot "
bait" me with his Sophisticated questions or arguments. The man is not only a heretic - he is also a "Sophist" (the two usually go hand-in-hand).
However, I do appreciate you "answering" for me - since you were "dead-on" in your analysis. Have you ever considered this though?
It is quite clear from "gophgetter's" Threads and Posts that he cannot "rightly divide the word of truth" and he refuses to receive instruction. Proverbs 15:32 He that refuseth instruction despiseth his own soul: but he that heareth reproof getteth understanding. If God isn't giving him understanding, do you think that any of us on this Forum can? 
I trow not!