Aloha CKG,
Your handling of my words is a huge disappointment to me. Please read what you did.
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George's statement:
Paul contrasts "faith" and "works" in several of his Epistles, so it makes "perfect sense" to contrast the "GIFT" of "faith" with "works".}
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CKG'S statement:
Paul never contrasts the “gift of faith” with works. He never even uses the term “gift of faith”.
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I said: "
Paul contrasts "faith" and "works" in several of his Epistles" - NOT "Paul contrasts "
the gift of faith” with works." as you so cleverly manipulated my words!
WHY do Christians DO THIS? WHY must you CHANGE what I said? I never said that "Paul contrasts
the “
gift of faith” with works" (you ADDED words to what I said). I very clearly said that "
Paul contrasts "faith" and "works" in several of his Epistles, and then I went on to say "
so it makes perfect sense" {for us} "to contrast the "GIFT" of "faith" with "works." If you don't understand what I was saying, don't CHANGE it to make it understandable to you (I am sure that there are many on the Forum that understand exactly what I said - and if you didn't, you should have asked me {like brother Winman} rather than manipulate my words). And for the record, I never made the "claim" that Paul ever used the term “gift of faith”
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Have you read ANY of Steve Rich's Posts? Have you taken any time to honestly research the other side of this issue? Or are you determined, at any cost, to push your point of view - even if it means twisting my words to suit your purpose?
Perhaps you didn't "mean" to CHANGE my words or twist, or wrest them, or take them out of context - but that is, in essence, what you did. I try real hard not to read "meaning" into the words of other people, or change their words to suit my own purposes, I would appreciate it, if, from now on, you would have the courtesy to do the same to me. 