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Old 05-26-2009, 03:09 AM
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Hello Tony,

I'm back after spending some time reading many of the older posts on this forum as requested. I am ready to "proclaim my position" if this would be allowed by Brandon. My husband and I distributed a tract we wrote a few years ago and I could post it on the forum in segments for your critique. I would welcome all critiques, although I anticipate much opposition. My position is solidly based on KJV Scriptures, though I am not of the "rightly dividing" dispensational persuasion as you know.

You also said:



I will stop with the shaloms per your request, but I am sorry I cannot renounce sabbath keeping or torah following in accordance with my strongly held, Biblical convictions. Jesus taught that we are to live by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God (Matt. 4:4; Luke 4:4) i.e., the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20). He did not say "Jews" shall live by these precepts, He said "Man" shall live by them. The word "torah" means "instruction." I find it delightful, not a burden, to follow God's instructions, and I especially call the Sabbath a delight (Isaiah 58:13-14).

To Brandon: In anticipation of the question, yes, I accept the KJV Bible as my final authority. All of my points will be made by quoting KJV verses only....no Greek or Hebrew.

May I proceed?

Tandi
Tandi, I made no request on how to begin or end a message, God has made several to you through the Scripture that was quoted to you about being a Judaizer. What you post in this forum, the content of a given message and how you begin a message or conclude it, is between you and the webmaster. The only request I made personally was that you stop being a Judaizer, stop mixing Law and Grace, and stop making the cross of Christ of none effect and His sacrifice in vain, because every Scripture given to you by me and the others here demonstrated, along with your website, that this is exactly what you are doing.

Ga 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Whether you post a tract and it's interpreted by the webmaster as merely your position, or interpreted as an attempt to make converts to the Law and it's disallowed, is not up to me. If I request anything I want you to explain what the verse above from Galatians means. In your own words, or go to the Four Gospels and refuted it from the red letters. You can post as many tracts as Brandon allows you to, I'd myself rather hear from your mouth, from your heart, what your position is, in your own words, and not some prefab piece of literature you assembled 6 months, a year, 5 years ago, whatever.

Ro 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Ga 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Ga 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Ga 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
Ga 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

You didn't read those verses, did you? You scrolled down to see what else I had to say below them. Tandi, they just rolled right off you didn't they?

You need to be aware that the KJV is not the only purpose and topic of this forum. The people discussing the KJV and the doctrines and studies from it are all Christians who have been saved by the grace of God apart from the works of the law. I don't know if the false ecumenical spirit has survived you leaving Catholicism in that you think there are some of us who can be saved by following the Law and some of us who can be saved apart from it, both can't be true. Again, personally I think that if you feel you are right and we are all wrong, then you share a forum with damned souls. What you want in a forum of reprobates therefore is beyond me except maybe to convert some of us, or some passerby who just stops to read the forum?

Tandi my friend, ye needs gird up thy loins. I'm sure someone will jump your tract or your position like white on rice. If that happens, I told you. We are people who are saved by grace through faith, that not of ourselves, not of works, lest any of us boast.

1Co 14:20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men.

I'm sure you'll be treated as politely as you have been previously. Go for it.

Grace and peace to you.

Tony