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[QUOTE=martydavis;5859] Doctrine is established by MEN[QUOTE]

Marty,

Paul taught more on Doctrine than any other person. Doctrine is established by the Holy Spirit not men. It is when men want to change sound doctrine they twist it to their own destruction.

there are plenty of established Doctrine for you today in the Bible. a rule of thumb is if Moses, Jesus, apostles or angel teaches something and it agrees with the writtings of Paul it is a doctrine for today.

you will notice that Paul restates the ten commandments in a much different way than Moses gave them to Israel. and Jesus give Kingdom rules that are much more harder than the Law. now we have the same priciples of law (but not is strict obedience) under the Age of Gods full Grace alone. not partial grace as under law.

Partial grace is that God saved by grace but they had to do a work to prove thier faith was true in their hearts. ie a sacrifices for sin when done in faith and were true to heart were spirtually acceptable. sacrifices done just from obedience but no heart in it. was not acceptable but only God knew them even though they looked good on the outside. Jesus called them white washed tombs.

Moses said eye for an eye, Jesus said love thy enemy, Paul said pray for your enemy and also to live peacably withall men if posible with you. Moses taugh love your neighbor as your self, Jesus taught Love God with all. . . and the second commandment is liken unto it Love your neighbor, Paul teaches that you love ye one another speaking to Christians only.

if something Paul teaches does not agree with any Aopostle or Jesus or any other it is not a Doctrine for today. However a spiritual truth may be gleened from it for devotional or inspiration but it is not a Doctrine. applications for life can be found through out the Bible. but they are not Doctrines. this is where the confusion usually is because you must rightly divide at this points. to establish teh correct strong doctrine and the life application which may or may not be a doctrine.

such as tounges is proof that a men is filled withthe Holy Ghost. it is a wrong teaching that has no foundation is the Bible. it has been established by some groups to be a Doctrine but it is not. there is no agreement of scripture to support it. so what is it. it is clearly a twisting of the word of God.

How about the SDA teaching that everyone should worship on the Sabbath only. but they disregard the teaching of Paul that we are not to look down on or dispise those who would have another day of worship or everyday alike, or eat meat. their teaching that one should eat vegies only is not base on the word either. so what is it? Wrong division and taking scriptures for someone else at another time and forcing it on everyone else. and according to them if you worship on Sunday (or any other day) you have the Mark of the Beast. you see they fail to divide and they establish things that are not doctrines as doctrines.

like most who do these things they have something other than the Bible to give them the authority not to obey God. A special prophet, or revelation, or a word of wisdom (they claim). but it never agrees with the word which is theonly source we have to establish Doctrine.