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am just trying to speak in a way so as to be understood and hoping to be fair to my opponents. You seem to be implying that your opponents are not saved but I do not believe that. Believers all have different abilities and degrees of faith and none of us is going to get all of God's revelation right.
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But arminians are not believers..its a cult like mormons or jws they deny a key doctrine, salvation by grace..thats a serious serious infraction..