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I think connie you are relying upon human ingenuity and not the spirits teaching of the elect.. God reveals his truth to babes..and hides it from the wise and prudent..
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I am just trying to speak in a way so as to be understood and hoping to be fair to my opponents. You seem to be implying that your opponents are not saved but I do not believe that. Believers all have different abilities and degrees of faith and none of us is going to get all of God's revelation right.