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Originally Posted by Diligent
Yes. He's wrong, for the reasons I already explained. My final authority is not John Gill, so this doesn't bother me much.
I suppose I could retort "are you saying John Wesley was wrong" since he agrees with my reading of the passage. But John Wesley is not my final authority either.
Did the Lord say the poor would be preserved forever? No, there is no conflict with what I said and what the Lord said. There is no problem here because those to whom the Lord was speaking always had poor people around them. That doesn't mean the Lord preserved all of them. Can you tell me where the poor of Jesus' time are now? I'm pretty sure none of them were preserved. The poor couldn't usually afford good mummification services.
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1. John Gill is not my final authority as well, but I would say he knows the hebrew language better than you or I both. That is what I meant by you consider him to be wrong.
It doesn't matter how elborate a senerio you put forth to explain that verse 7 is not speaking of verse 5.... if them... is in fact.... him.... in the verse.....your scenerio means nothing.
2. Do you mean to tell me that Jesus was only speaking about the poor that lived during his advant on this earth when He said.
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
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If you do not... then why can we not consider that Jesus was also talking about the poor of all generations upon the earth when He said
Joh 12:8 For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.
I am trying to understand your logic but I'm not getting it.