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Old 12-20-2008, 10:23 PM
Steven Avery Steven Avery is offline
 
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Default faith of Christ - faith in Christ

Hi Folks,

We have some earlier discussion on this on the forum, I just want to share a bit and then the primary point. (Note: even I am truly amazed that the New King James Version actually tampered on these critical verses.)

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Originally Posted by BrianT
Hi avbunyan, I think you're splitting hairs. For example, you said Gal 3:26 is about faith dealing with "relationship", but the context (verses 24-26) explicitly says it's about justification.
No, there is quite a clear contextual change after verse 24. Try a good commentary, first.

Matthew Henry seems to have a good understanding, e.g. pointing out that due to "The great advantage of the gospel state above the legal" comes forth "our privilege by Christ" so that "we are the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus". All of this is possible only "after faith has come", the "faith of Christ" has manifest.

That should help you out doctrinally, if you read Matthew Henry. You should be able to at least begin to understand that there is a very powerful and real distinction between "faith in Christ" and the "faith of Christ".

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/henry/mhc6.Gal.iv.html
Galatians Chap. III - Matthew Henry


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Just to be clear here, the primary Bible version/text issue is that there is a clear distinction in the Greek that is properly reflected in the King James Bible. Some verses have "faith in Christ" (with the English pronoun in harmony with the Greek pronoun). And Romans 3:22; Galatians 2:16; 3:22 are "faith of Christ", the English correct, reflecting that there is no Greek pronoun. And it is quite clear that the Greek distinction also reflects a differing context of the verses, which brings forth the discussion of justification as well as all the related doctrinal aspects.

Modern versions generally override this because of their own doctrinal predilections (especially their own difficulty with, stumbling over, the 'faith of Christ', a very difficult concept for them, similar to their difficulty in believing that God's word can be 100% pure and perfect). So to keep it dumb, they like to change 'faith of Christ' to 'faith in Christ'. Obviating the clear Reformation Bible distinction. The Greek text and King James Bible distinction, which you will also see in Tyndale and Geneva. (Apparently there was simply no significant difficulty in the actual translation, simply clarity and agreement.) Yet the New King James Bible has joined the modern version confusion and error (translational apostasy) here, against the Reformation Bible. So of course Brian you would like to find some method to defend this error. Is your favorite musician Muddy Waters ?

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Now, one final point. King James Bible defenders will also have wonderful discussions about the exact meanings of 'faith in Christ' and 'faith of Christ'. (And yes, at times we will disagree !) One may understood the 'faith of Christ' as the faith expressed by Jesus Christ another as the doctrine of faith and there may be other possibilities.

Yet we agree on the words of God 100%, pure and preserved. And from that base of agreement in God's pure and perfect word we discuss our understandings --

Iron sharpeneth iron;
so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. (Proverbs 27:17)

Shalom,
Steven

Last edited by Steven Avery; 12-20-2008 at 10:45 PM.