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Old 02-09-2009, 03:49 AM
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If the KJV taught man didn't have a free will (total depravity). A person must make his own choice to believe no one not even God can make it for him. But the KJV teaches that one must believe or exercise their faith or belief. 4 points left.

If the KJV Bible taught Predestination (unconditional election)as a salvation Doctrine I guess you could have a Calvinist point, But seeing the KJV only teaches the Predestinate are Christian Doctrines meaning that Predestination only occurs after a person believes (Romans 8 and Ephesians 1), and not before as Calvinist teach. 3 points left

How about Limited atonement? the KJV Bible is clear that Christ died for everyone and once for all in Timothy and Hebrews. so atonement is made for all but not all will apply the blood to themselves by way of making a choice or exercising faith in Christ finished work for all. 2 points left

Irresistible grace
well that hooks into Unconditional election so if one doctrine fails they both fail. We have all seen people resist grace but how much clearer than in Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. Only One point Left

Preservation of the saint. Now we are all told God will by his power someday unite us to the Lord in an event called the gathering in the clouds known as teh rapture. that is the promise of true preserving for the believer. otherwise we have no promises God will preserve us through every situation, i.e. World trade Center, automobile accidents, cancer and all the like, show that Christians are not preserved from harm in this world. so maybe you have half a point here.

Conclusion the KJV does not teach The Calvinistic TULIP imposed in 1614 (?) Council of Dort on the Christian community as True Salvation Doctrine. The KJV does not teach the TULIP therefore it is a doctrine of man not the teaching of the word of God.

Last edited by chette777; 02-09-2009 at 03:55 AM.