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Old 07-19-2009, 08:21 AM
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Hi Brother

This Chart may help understand the following scripture
(Chart by Clarence Larkin, who's charts are a wonderful addition to the word of God for understanding dispensational and Biblical truth)

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If we go all the way back to 1st Samuel we can read that in summoning up Samuels spirit via a witch (who when Samuel appeared almost dies herself with shock and fright)

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1 Samuel 28:12-15 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul. And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth. And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself. And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do.
Here we can read that Samuel came from below (Paradise), so we can clearly see from scripture that the OT Saints died and went to Abraham's Bosom. (Luke 16: 19-31)


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Lu*16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
Lu*16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
Lu*16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
Lu*16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
Lu*16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Lu*16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Lu*16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
Lu*16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Lu*16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
Lu*16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
Lu*16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
Lu*16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
Lu*16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead
all those who died in the Lord in the old Testament went to paradise (in the earth), when Christ died on the cross he said to the penitent thief

Quote:
"To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."
Luke 23:43
When he gave up the Ghost he descended into the "lower parts of the earth"

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Ephesians 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
To release the OT saints from Abraham's bosom, and lead them to the third heaven (New Paradise)
Quote:
Heavenly not Earthly
Along with the keys of Hell and of Death

Quote:
Matthew 16:18-19 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
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Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.


Christ came back with the keys seized, Paradise (earthly) locked and emptied of its inhabitants (OT saints) and ascended to the Paradise section of the Third Heaven

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Ephesians 4:8-10 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
The latter scripture of course completely nullifies the roman catholic fantasy of purgatory

Hope this helps, that's my understanding of it, Larkins charts are a blessing and a wonderful accompaniment to the word of God.

Last edited by peopleoftheway; 07-19-2009 at 08:30 AM.