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Old 07-06-2009, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gord View Post
Yes of course I noticed that, the version is not the issue, ELECT and PREDESTINE mean the same thing in plain english regardless of the version.
Gord,

The version issue is very much the issue. if they use a Bible that has changed the words it changes the context and meaning. without these perversions Sherlin could not support his personal interpretation of his doctrine of Predestination or Election.

Elect and Predestine do not mean the same thing. Not in the English Dictionaries I have.

you will notice that not once in the KJV does Predestinate apply to an unbeliever. Predestinate only applies to people who are already saved, not before they get saved. It what we would call a Church Doctrine, for they only apply to the church

IN order to understand Rom 8:30 you will need to study out how God chooses. Eph 1:4 tells us he chose us IN HIM (Christ) as it says in the context of Roms 8:29 his foreknowledge. God by his foreknowledge chose those who were IN HIM then afterwards the predestinated verse follows. so one must be IN HIM to have any predestination applied to him.

George did an excellent study on it. apparently you did not read it or believe it. but he used only KJV Bible and all in context tot he surrounding verses. Dr Shelin used multiple choice versions and the verses are used out of context. How did you miss that?

Last edited by chette777; 07-06-2009 at 05:52 PM.