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Old 03-04-2008, 12:18 PM
Pastor Mikie
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In answer to "Biblestudent":

Solid proofs why "sign gifts" have been taken away after A.D. 96. (1 Cor. 13:10;Rev. 22:18,19). That which is perfect is not identified. The whole passage has to do with the fact complete replaces the partial. Revelation 22:18 & 19 not applicable here. AD96 is pulled out of thin air.
1. BOTH tongues and healing are "signs" (Mark 16:16-18; 1 Cor. 12:30; 1 Cor. 1:22; 1 Cor. 14:22).
So what? That doesn’t show pro or con concerning tongues and healing.
2. Tongues shall cease (1 Cor. 13) and have ceased together with healing after the Acts period. Later in his ministry, Paul no longer can heal (1 Tim. 4:20) and starts giving prescription (1 Tim 5:23).
Acts period not specified in these passages. 2nd Timothy 4:20 making a statement of fact, not saying anything about Paul healing or not healing. It is the Spirit of God who imparts the gifts, not us. Telling Timothy to drink wine for his stomach isn’t Paul giving out prescriptions. 1st Corinthians 13 is the buffer between chapters 12 & 14. Silly argument. That’s about the same thing as saying Ezekiel chapter 1 is teaching UFO’s are real.
3. Did Polycarp speak in tongues? Did he heal? Solid evidence please if he did.
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
4. Did Ireneaus speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
5. Did Ignatius speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
6. Did Tertullian speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
7. Did Chrysostom speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
8. Did the Paulicians speak in tongues? Did they heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
9. Did the Bogomiles speak in tongues? Did they heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
10. Did the Waldensians speak in tongues? Did they heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
11. Did the Anabaptists speak in tongues? Did they heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
12. Did John Wycliff speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
13. Did William Tyndale speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
14. Did Martin Luther speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
15. Did John Calvin speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
16. Did Lancelot Andrews speak in tongues? Sure he did! But it was a natural gift and he had to study them. He didn't have it supernaturally. Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
17. Did Spurgeon speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
18. Did George Whitefield speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
19. Did Moody speak in tongues? Did he heal?
Don’t know – Don’t care for the sake of this discussion. Irrelevant.
20. Do you really speak in tongues? Yes I do.
21. Do you heal? No. But Jesus does. Have been healed of heart trouble. Both my wife and I have been healed by God and both have prayed for people who have been healed by God. Why doesn’t God heal everyone? Don’t know.
22. We need you here. Thank you.

You still need to show Biblically that tongues were taken away. You’ve shown me Scripture that has been interpreted by your personal bias. Someone reading those passages without having an opinion one way or the other wouldn’t come to your conclusions about the matter. Your arguments are superfluous in my opinion.