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Old 03-07-2009, 06:01 PM
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I have Italicized your quotes and given my answers respectfully

I don't believe brothers in Christ should argue or debate, so that is not why I keep coming back to this thread. I sincerely believe the Gap Theory is an error.

You may believe what ever you want

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

It is very difficult for a Gap theorist to get around this very simple and straightforward verse of scripture. And this was what God wrote on the Ten Commandments with his very finger! This verse says heaven (Gen 1:1) was included in the six day creation, and all that in them is. So this would include Satan and the angels.

I am not sure where you get the idea God wrote anything more than the commandments on the table of stones. Genesis is a history inspired by him and penned by Moses during the wilderness travels. God never wrote history on the tablets only commandments. But this is a good example of how people make statements with no Biblical backing and then cover them over in glossy words to hide the fact that their statement is not true to the word of God. People get fooled by that everyday when following men.

The problem for the no gap is that is inconstant with God character as he had revealed all that pertained to this current 24/7 earth . You have God revealing everything he created in the 6 days event except Lucifer and the Angels. Everything that has been created at the 6 day creation was revealed in detail and restated in part in chapter two. Why doesn't god bring forth his creature Lucifer and get a name for him? I showed that angelic beings were alive before the earth was created and he hung it in the heaven.

You cannot add any days between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2 because then the creation account would be longer than six days. In fact, according to most Gap theorists, the gap could have been thousands, millions, or even billions of years.

I have never added any days between Gen1:1 and 1:2 nor do I hold to current evolutionary views (stated before) of any millions of billions 24/7 years. I believe that eternity was the time measurement God exists and operates in before Gen 1:3.

The Gap Theory was invented because the Church allowed science to intimidate it. All these falsely "so called" scientists were telling everybody the world and all life evolved over billions of years. So some in the Church tried to reconcile the Bible with science. We should never do that. The Bible is true no matter what science claims. And sooner or later true science (which exists) will come around and agree with the Bible. That has happened many times. Today, even evolutionists are admitting there is much evidence for a young earth. They can't deny it, there is too much real evidence.

You need to do more research. there is evidence in Jewish history that the Gap theory went back before the time of Christ. I will find you a link to that info and read it objectively make no conclusions before starting save that for afterwards.

Now, when you go around telling everybody there was a great gap between Gen 1:1 and 1:2, you are in effect calling God a liar. That may sound harsh, but what else could you call it? So, think about that.

Again I only stated that there is eternity between Gen1:1 and 1:2. not a great gap of 24/7 365 day years. That is another fellow not I.

The Gap Theory says there was death before Adam. But the Bible says sin entered the world by Adam. And death by this sin.

I have never said there was death before Gen 3 nor even before Gen1:2. I do believe there was a destruction and desolation before that on the earth that left it without form and void Gen1:2 and Jer4:23 is how I established that meaning.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.


OK, the Bible says sin entered the world by a man, not an angel. Vs. 14 says death reigned from Adam to Moses, but if the Gap Theory is correct, then death reigned well before Adam was created until Moses.

The Bible says Adam was the first man.


1 Cor 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

The Gap Theory claims there were some sort of hybrid angelic men on the earth. They certainly had to be mortal men if God destroyed them by making the earth "without form and void" as your theory demands. Destroying the world would have no effect on angels or Satan. And we know Satan is still around today and will be to the end. So, destroying the earth had no effect on him or the other angels.

So, if there were mortal men on the earth between Gen 1:1 and 1:2, then 1 Cor 15:45 is false.

I never disagreed with the fact that Adam brought in sin unto the 24/7 time Quantum world of man. I never said Lucifer brought in sin into this world at any time in any of my statements.

I never said there were any pre adamic life forms on the earth in eternity prior to Gen. 1:2 - 31 accounts. that was some one else's theory. there are at least Six gap theory's and only on no Gap. you will have to study them all and keep them separated.

I do not believe Lucifer created any life forms because that would make him equal to God. And only God can give life. Plants are not living beings like animals or man. 1Cor 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. never is the word flesh used concerning plants.

I never said that God killed brought death to angels. That is another person with another theorum said that. you are confusing us with them.

This is just the beginning, I could go on and on. Don't you see how contrary to the scriptures this theory is?

yeah, I am sure you can

Six day creationists do not have to twist the scriptures, it is simple and staightforward. It doesn't contradict many other verses in the Bible the way the Gap theory does.

I never said you had too nor have I. and I have said I agree 99% with he facts of the 6 day creation as being true except of the creation of Lucifer and the other Angelic beings.

I would think seriously think about this theory. I wouldn't listen to what other men say, listen to what the scriptures say.

I have been studying this on my own. I have and still am reading material from Kent Hivn, James Morris, John Morris, Gaines Johnson, Ole Madsen Just to name a few. they all have tons of reference material to research and many unanswered questions.

There are some difficult with Hovin and Morris no gap that go unanswered and when they do answer they answer from silent (twisting the clear word of God to fit their view). so you see I have and I am doing my home work. my thesis on a non preadamic life and evolution Gap theory is far from completed.

I have developed a theory that is Biblically sound to the purpose of Gods word by what He has revealed. I tackle verse that are not explained in the Bible and it is clear the reason they are not is because they did not take place in our current 24/7 time measurement that God created after Gen 1:2.

please I am not the regular run of the mill Gap theorist you have lumped my into. you have placed a lot of material on my shoulders of which I have never personally espoused. I hold to a view that is biblical and reconciles the the Gap and the 6 day creation as being true, with out death of a pre adamic race or death of any kind.

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