[George]

Originally Posted by geologist

"Let's have some mercy here and put this thread down, like you would an old dog that needs to be put out of its misery.

Point: I was jumped because I called Zorba, “My best friend” because, according to the opinion of these brethren, I should have said Jesus was my best friend. Nobody gave me the benefit of a doubt that the context of the reference was my personal relationship with another living creature ON THIS EARTH.

Point: I have been accused of blasphemy and changing the Word of God because I made the remark concerning Song 8:6 when I said, “Nay, but love is stronger than death”.

I stand by that statement for this reason: God IS love. (see 1 John 4:8 and 1 John 4:16). And the Lord God's love on the cross was AND IS stronger than death. The words in Song 8:6 were penned BEFORE Calvary. My statement is true today.

Concerning any of the rest, we simply have a difference of opinion about animals. Certainly, they are not humans, but they are a 'people' (as Tandi correctly pointed out). Can they think and reason? Ask Balaam's Ass (Numbers 22:23). She certainly demonstrated care and concern and, when the Lord opened her mouth so she could speak, she expressed herself quite well. This was not a case of God playing a ventriloquist.

As for George's claim that I insulted his wife, this was not my intent and I apologize for the misconception. I merely wanted to point out that I believe that Isaiah 65:17 through 65:25 was describing the 1,000 years ON THE EARTH REIGN of the Lord Jesus Christ and this was NOT a description of the post millennial world that begins at Revelation 21. If George and his wife disagree with that, then so be it. We will just have to agree to disagree on that point.

Ok, I've said my peace.
Thank you ."

geologist,

You can't leave well enough alone - can you?

Again, I would not have replied to this recent Post and let you continue justifying yourself, if it were not for the fact that you are still CORRECTING the word of God!

"Point: I have been accused of blasphemy and changing the Word of God because I made the remark concerning Song 8:6 when I said, “Nay, but love is stronger than death”.

I stand by that statement for this reason: God IS love. (see 1 John 4:8 and 1 John 4:16). And the Lord God's love on the cross was AND IS stronger than death. The words in Song 8:6 were penned BEFORE Calvary. My statement is true today."

POINT: Your statement wasn't just a harmless "remark", as you would have us think. Your reasoning in this matter is unscriptural! Solomon was NOT speaking about GOD'S LOVE! He was speaking about "human love" (look at the context!), and rather than seek understanding in this matter you just jumped to the conclusion that this verse must be WRONG (because it was written before Calvary?). By still standing by your former statement, and still saying "NAY" to God's words - you are STILL DENYING the truth of God's word (in this case) and rather than admit it, and correct your attitude, you continue to justify yourself, rather than just simply admit that you are wrong!

Your comments about Balaam's ass are way beyond comprehension! Do you really think that animals can "think and reason" like human beings - just because of this one miraculous account? Is this how we Christians are to "rightly divide the word of truth" - by taking one miraculous account (performed by God - contrary to all of nature) recorded in the Scriptures and then draw "general conclusions" from that account? I trow not! [Isaiah 28:10-13]

This is not just: "we simply have a difference of opinion about animals." If it were just simply a matter of "opinion", I would not have even commented on your Post. I have already read plenty of "opinion" and "speculation" coming from you in regards to the creation - and I never once commented on any of them. The problem is your "attitude" towards the Scriptures; and the fact that you ignored 90% of what I said in regards to your attitude towards God's Holy words, and instead justified yourself and made excuses for every erroneous and false thing that you said.

The rest of your excuses and alibis are just more attempts to "twist" words around and alter them; and make them say something other than what you first said. {This is something that Sophists do - NOT Bible believers - Not good!} With the exception of Tandi, all the rest of the brethren (that commented) understood what your inferences and comments were about, i.e. animals have many of the SAME ATTRIBUTES as people. It's too late to try and CHANGE what you said. {But it's not too late to admit that you are wrong.}

This reminds me of the "Title" to one of your former Threads: "Why is this not a contradiction?" When I first saw the "title I asked myself - WHY would a genuine Bible believer state or put forth a question concerning a Bible issue in such a manner? I now understand WHY!

Like I said before - you have lost all credibility with me, and you may rest assured that I will (from this point on) ignore everything you have to say, unless you continue to CORRECT the Bible, or there comes a day when you are willing to stop JUSTIFYING yourself. This is not a case of: "Let's have some mercy". It's a case of: "Judge righteous judgment". [John 7:14]

1 Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

God didn't say - if any man speak, let him speak from his heart whatever he thinks is true; and He certainly doesn't "approve" of Christians DENYING His Holy word in order to justify a "personal opinion". We are to "speak as the oracles of God" - NOT DENY them; CHANGE them; ADD to them; and then through subtle and clever "sophistry" JUSTIFY our pernicious acts.

Psalms 33:4 For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.

The verse said: "For the word of the LORD is right" and that includes Song of Solomon 8:6 - regardless of the FACT that it was written before Calvary; and in spite of the FACT that you "think" that it is WRONG, and then had the audacity to DENY THE TRUTH (your word "NAY" - not mine), and then CHANGED it, and then ADDED to it!

I have a very simple rule (and have had since 1968) when a Christian says "NAY" TO God's Holy words - I say NAY TO THEM!