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Originally Posted by Jacomus
Greetings!
I've been spending a lot of time recently studying the reliability of the AV and the Textus Receptus, but I've been unable to come to a conclusion. I'd like to make it clear that I am a Bible believing Christian and I trust in God's infallible and inerrant Word, the question that is being repeated over and over again for me is "Is Biblical inerrancy confined to the original manuscripts?".
I've spent a tremendous amount of time the last two years debating Muslims, and I always encounter their main arguments being that the Bible is full of errors. It is extremely easy to prove them wrong, because none of the possible Biblical variances permit such an extensive overhaul as Islam requires. But when answering them, I have found it the simplest and most convincing to show rebuttal lists to their 'contradiction' lists where many of the 'contradictions' are explained as translational errors, and most of them recommend using modern Bible versions.
Now after reading an article where a NASV committee member switched allegiance to the AV (in conjunction with other articles), I've become relatively convinced that the Westcott & Hort text is unreliable.
But questions still abound for me, and I'd appreciate it if someone could help me out on this. Whilst I've seen strong evidence against the modern versions, I've not seen any thoroughly convincing evidence for the reliability of the TR and AV. Another issue is contradictions. Due to my constant confrontations with Muslims both IRL and online, I need an answer to contradictions badly, if I am to stick with the AV. Also, 1 John 5:7 would be extremely useful, and am almost convinced (could be partly due to my personal desire) that it is properly rendered in the AV. But why then did the 1545 Luther Bible leave it out, as Luther also based his translation on the TR?
Any answers are much appreciated.
In Christ,
Jacomus |
Aloha brother,
Here is an answer to your last question: If you can get a hold of Dean John Burgon's books (especially) "The Revision Revised" it would be helpful. However, the most thorough study on this subject has been done by Michael Maynard. Maynard's book - "
A History of the Debate Over 1 John 5:7-8" runs 382 pages! And presents every scrap of evidence available to support the "genuineness" of the reading.
As to the rest of your inquiry please check out my post:
AV1611 Bible Forums > Bible Versions > Were The Early Fundamentalist KJV Only? > Page 7 - Post #69 where I have tried to outline the "issue" of "WHICH BIBLE?" and list many of the men who have been involved in either defending the "Traditional Text" or "The Received Text" or, like myself, have been engaged in the defense of the King James Bible.
If you pursue this study don't be surprised to find that there are different "Camps" (points of view) involved in the issue and the "debates" can get pretty "heated". And please, whatever you do, don't get discouraged or disappointed just because some us may "get in the flesh" every so often defending our "point of view" (NO EXCUSES! But it happens.)
If you read my post (#69) you will see that this "issue" is not only very "controversial" (even among so-called Bible "believers"), it is also extremely "confusing". However, I believe, if you are sincere, that God will guide you along the way and lead you into all truth.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide youinto all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
1 John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
May you always have trust and confidence in God and in His Holy word.
Yours for the Lord Jesus Christ and for His Holy word,