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Old 07-06-2008, 07:50 PM
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The Jest of the supporting scriputres can be found in the following verses. You will need to put together a timeline from the time of the gathering to the Time of Jesus Coming in his brightness and destroys teh anti-christ (even him, whose ocming is after Satan) and Identify what time period that is between the two events. once that is established you see clearlythe scriptures teach a catching away, later translated into Latin Raptura, transliterated into English Rapture.

While no Bible translates the catching awayin Thess as Rapture. the teaching come through the Roman Church Rule and into the Reformation. there the teachers left the word Rapture in the Teaching because many were already familuar with this clear teaching of Scriptures.

Todays heredical opposition is a form of Arian(SP?) and Gnostic beliefs brought forth with newer greek text to ruin your hope in preservation from the Great Tribulation.

1Th 4:13-18 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

1Corithians shows the details that happen at and during the gatherig taught in 1Thess 4

1Cor 15:51- 57 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Second Thessolonians helps you to see what happens after the catching away and and until Jesus comes in his glory

2 Thess 1-12 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Nothing is out of context because Paul is the one who changed the order of the context. This teaching was taught by Paul whom beleived that at any moment the Lord would return for his body and commense the Great Trib before setting up His Kingdom.