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Old 08-28-2008, 04:32 AM
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2 Corinthians 5:14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: And that he died for all,

Clearly Christ is potrayed as dying for all men not just us who were chosen in Christ. Gods choice was made by foreknowing who of us would be in Christ. see Eph 1:4. it is only those who believe we should no longer live lives of sinfulness.

1John 2:1 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
the propitiation came by Christs death that was for all, but not all will accept his work. does the whole world beleive? No but Christ died for them just the same that he might bring them to God.

1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.
here again Christ is saviour of the world this is not the planet but the all the people of the planet. but again not all will receive the free gift of God.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
again he dies for all. only those who beleive will not perish. many whom he died for will go to hell and suffer eternally with the memory of every time the Gospel was spoken to them and they didn't beleive.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
and here again Christ suffered for all are unjust. every man is born unjust into this world. the cliker is the fact that he might bring us to God which tells us not all who here of his sufferig will beleive.

to say God only allowed Christ to die for some and not for others, portrays a God who acts more human than a Just Almighty God. Christ died for all humanity but not all humanity will accepts Christs death on their behalf.

Owen and Packer are Calvinist