Thread: Secret Rapture
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:12 AM
Jeremy Jeremy is offline
 
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Here is my 2 cents on this subject.
The problem exists when preachers appease the people with the Pre-trib,Mid-Trib,Post-Trib and Partial, this only causes more confusion, 15 years ago there were no disagreement on the KJ bIble or where people stood as far as the rapture. There is only one, and that is the Pre-Tribulation Rapture

What you refer to as a 2 phase second coming is 2 stages or phases within the Process of the Second Coming.
1. The Rapture and the Revelation or what is called as the Second Coming,
having the 7 year Tribulation seperating the two.
2.We are living in the Church Age.
3.The Rapture is Signless,because it is Imminent. I thess. 4 v16-17 Acts 1 v9-11
4. The 7 year Tribulation,(A time of Jacobs trouble,Israels suffering)Christians and Believers will not go through the Tribulation,we will be Raptured, Therefore the Holy Spirit will not be on this earth except for the 144,000 Jews who minister to those in the Tribulation.
Jeremiah 30 v7: Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

Daniel 12 v1: And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

5.End of 7 year Tribulation,we will return with Christ for the Millennium
Jude verse 14: And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Rev. 20v4:And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

6. The Literal,Visible and Bodily first coming was when Jesus was born,the second coming is at the end of tribulation,he will return just as he did the first time, Literal,Visible and Bodily,we will be with him. There is your 2 phases.

Acts 1v9-11: And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Matthew Chapters 24-25 is refered to as the Olivet Discourse, it is the 3 questions the disciples asked Jesus.
Matthew 24v 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

The signs are refering to the second coming. They are happening at higher Intensity and greater Frequency. Earthquakes,Rumors of war etc..

How close are we when these signs are being fulfilled each and everyday,that points to the Second Coming, and we are still here!