[Steven Avery]

Hi Folks,

Jeffrey originally shared (viewable by WhichVersion members, the two points identical to what Will has posted with some overall notes also included) this at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/whichv.../message/19146
Matthew 23:24 Strain AT a gnat

Please note : in a heavy-handed and false dismissal of most of Will's article:

http://www.exorthodoxforchrist.com/s...thew_23-24.htm
strain AT a gnat, and swallow a camel.
"Ye blind guides, which strain AT a gnat, and swallow a camel."
(This version has more HTML, the web-page author adds some of his notes at bottom.)

as having only one objective statement amidst a

Connie - "sea of speculative comments, opinions, guesses and suppositions"

you passed by Jeffrey's other note, the Greek lexicon of Bauer updated by Frederick William Danker, which discussed awareness of, seeing, a gnat and making effort .. rather than simply passive straining .. without any note or comment by yourself.

Strangely, you were also accusing the Chambers 20th Century Dictionary entry as "speculation, etc.." ...as well as the Talmud entry (which actually is from John Gill, as you will discover for yourself when you read his whole section) as well as the Oxford Dictionary reference (Will does not give the quoted entry on that one).

Apparently when you are struggling with an issue, you try to hand-wave all scholarly references. I think it is important to understand why some of us aren't taking your oft-expressed concerns very seriously. You do not seem to be very attentive to the very articles you are attempting to dismiss and you seem far more interested in shrill and inaccurate critiques rather than relatively simple research checking (e.g. John Gill).

This may also help to understand why some see your struggle on this verse as far more a spiritual issue of your approach to the pure word of God, the King James Bible, rather than an objective research and understanding of the Bible issue.

Shalom,
Steven